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JonT wrote on 3/14/2002, 11:44 AM
I mean, people would actually have to PAY for the software too!
jbrazier wrote on 3/14/2002, 11:56 AM
I've used both platforms (Mac & Windows). They're both useful.

Migrating code to another platform is a very expensive process. It's both time consuming and you're dealing with a very niche market, whereas Sonic Foundry's current path on the PC has spread their products to numerous people (based on the huge installed base of Windows users). Face it, cost is the biggest issue. Although the Mac is a great computer, people would rather spend a $1200 for a top-end pc with excellent components and upgrade-ability instead of spending $2300 or more for a Macintosh.

Best suggestion is to try some of the Mac specific products out there. I heard that video software from Apple is fairly decent. Final Cut Pro I think... Not to mention the various audio products available.
JonT wrote on 3/14/2002, 12:08 PM
I use ProTools, and it's fine, but it won't do what Vegas will for audio. I think that if Vegas made the software for BOTH platforms, they couldn't lose. Yeah, it might be expensive, but I know a ton of people who swear by PC's for 1 reason - software is so easily cracked and obtained for free - including all of Sonic Foundry's programs.

I, for one, pay for my software to help the developers/programmers. Unfortunately, a lot of people don't. Mac software is harder to crack, if not impossible in most cases, and therefore forces users to buy it - one giant advantage to the developers.
jbrazier wrote on 3/14/2002, 12:24 PM
That's not entirely true. In fact the Unix OS (which is what OSX is based on) is the most hacked platform in the world. It's been around in some form or another for 30 years.... Besides, cracking or hacking into a piece of software is not based on the OS or platform. It all depends on what methods the developer uses in software registration and activation.

3rd party software is actually much easier to write in the first place on the Windows platform because there are so many tools to aid in doing so (DirectX makes some things a breeze for multimedia programming...I've done it). I suspect we'll see more Mac-centric tools in the coming 2-5 years if OSX is really the future of Apple (I hope it is...).
JonT wrote on 3/14/2002, 12:28 PM
Sure would be nice!
Cheesehole wrote on 3/16/2002, 12:38 AM
>Mac software is harder to crack, if not impossible in most cases, and therefore forces users to buy it - one giant advantage to the developers.

no software is impossible to crack. I've seen PLENTY of mac software on the warez boards. what software were you led to believe was uncrackable on the mac side?

people may have that impression because there's so much more info available for PCs (due to the much bigger install base), and I can see your point, but it's a double edged sword. I don't think that's a good argument for porting to the mac.

- ben (cheesehole!)
decrink wrote on 3/16/2002, 2:41 PM
I love trolling. Let's see, "OSX is far superior to anything windows will EVER MAKE".
So let's see, envision us in the future with Windows 2018 and Mac OSX is STILL superior?

Just enjoy whatever computer you're working on and understand they're different and you'll be happy with your more expensive options on MAC and we'll be happy with Vegas on PC.
There, everyone happy?
timoheil wrote on 3/16/2002, 6:18 PM
Sorry to disappoint you, but Sonic Foundry recently stated clearly that there will _never_ be a "Mac Vegas". Of course "Never" is a hard word, but look at the company: one of their founders used to be a developer at Microsoft's multimedia department. SoFo makes deep use of the Windows API (unlike many crossplatform programs).

In my eyes the software comes first, then the platform. If you really want to use Vegas, then you should consider buying a decent PC (plus Windows XP - super stable OS!). As a matter of fact hi-end PCs (Athlons, P4s) are currently faster than the fastest Mac anyway (even though Apple always shows up with these Photoshop benchmark....) - for less money. If you do not want to use a PC at all, then there is probably nothing you can do. Sorry.
FuTz wrote on 3/16/2002, 6:48 PM
... there it goes again...
If I wanna work with FinalCutPro3, I'll buy a G4 plus lots of storage while selling my house in the process so I can buy all of this. Period.

I use VV3 with a PC, am verrrrrrrrrrrrry happy with it and wouldn't change. I don't have to buy SCSI drives ($$$), I DO pay for my programs at half even one third of the price compared to my friends who actually use Macs AND have spare money...
By the way, NO, it's not true Win2K crashes once a month AND YES, Macs crash too...

It's a question of choice with what's actually on the market, how you want to invest with both money AND time cause YES, with PC's you'll have to tweak 3 times more than with Macs...
wvg wrote on 3/17/2002, 8:47 AM
Saying 'stupid' things like "mac's OSX is far superior to anything windows will ever make" is well...dumb.
FuTz wrote on 3/17/2002, 8:54 AM
Of course, and knowing half of the MacUsers still prefer to rely , as we are talking, on OS 9.2.2 cause OSX is, for them, a pain in the "Macss" despite all these nice transparencies and goodies they added...
Jacose wrote on 3/17/2002, 10:00 AM
The only time XP ever crashes on my system is cause of Arboretum Hyperprism Driect X FX.... not once a month (since Win2k and XP are very close)