5+ hours of DVD mpeg2 onto Blu Ray

CantKeepUp wrote on 6/7/2016, 2:30 PM
I am sorry for asking since I am sure this has come up before but so much noise when with search terms mpeg2 and blu ray..

So I have captured a couple hours (~5 hours) some old footage from analog 8mm video and VHS tapes. I used standard DV capture feature of my digital 8 camcorder and imported into Vegas 12 pro. (so the video is now in standard DV at 720x480x24 .avi format on my timeline)

I know I could never fit 5+ hours of standard DV video (mpeg2) on a DVD so I was rejoicing thinking my purchase of a new Blue Ray burner (with 25 gig discs) was going to be the solution… now I am worried.

My thoughts were that I just follow my old work flow when I use to make DVDs by
Step 1: render the timeline using the MainConcept ‘DVD Architect NTSC video stream’
Step 2: render the audio using Dolby Digital AC3

From there, I figured I just open Architect, but instead of selecting DVD, I select the Blu Ray project template, and from there, I just import the resulting mpg & ac3 files and link them with a menu.

Please tell me it’s that easy. You can use standard def mpeg2 files on Blu Ray right??
Sorry if my question is confusing.. it’s because I am so confused.. just can’t keep up.

Thanks in advance!


Comments

john_dennis wrote on 6/7/2016, 3:16 PM

"Please tell me it’s that easy. You can use standard def mpeg2 files on Blu Ray right??"

It's that easy. You can use (lots of) standard definition MPEG-2 files on Blu-ray.



You can use even more if you render to AVC with the downside of 1) taking longer to render and 2) the requirement that you customize one of the Sony AVC/MVC Blu-ray templates for SD pixel dimensions.



Don't upscale SD media to HD just because the Blu-ray media supports it!

musicvid10 wrote on 6/7/2016, 3:42 PM
I would suggest that you leave the program in its original SD Mpeg-2 format.
Upscaling is best left to the player / teevee.
john_dennis wrote on 6/7/2016, 4:28 PM

"I would suggest that you leave the program in its original SD Mpeg-2 format."

That's what I would do, too. That leaves the possibility of making DVDs from parts of the program for other uses. It's handy for archival purposes to have 5 hours of video on one disk, but most people won't watch 5 hours before they have to do something else or go somewhere else.

musicvid10 wrote on 6/7/2016, 4:38 PM
..."but most people won't watch 5 hours before they have to do something else."
Except for my vacation footage, of course.
;?)

john_dennis wrote on 6/7/2016, 4:44 PM
My wife and I have been binge-watching Bones from off-air recordings. I don't think we've made it to 5 hours, yet.
PeterDuke wrote on 6/7/2016, 6:49 PM
"I would suggest that you leave the program in its original SD Mpeg-2 format."

To be pedantic, the original is DV AVI, not MPEG2.

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"but most people won't watch 5 hours before they have to do something else or go somewhere else."

Who says that you have to watch a whole disc in a single sitting?

If you have chapters, you can pick and choose what to watch when you like. There is no real difference between a BD with 5 hours of content and 5 DVDs each with 1 hour content. In fact I consider the single disc to be an advantage (less shelf storage space, no need to swap discs if you want to watch more than 1 hour, etc.)
musicvid10 wrote on 6/7/2016, 9:16 PM
I have not heard of DV AVI being a BluRay compatible format. Can you point me to some guidance?
Chienworks wrote on 6/7/2016, 9:43 PM
It isn't. Peter was merely saying that CantKeepUp captured the original video as DV-AVI. So, it will have to be rendered, either to MPEG2 or AVC.
craftech wrote on 6/8/2016, 7:57 AM
Has anyone tried this?

I believe DVDA would re-render the video.

John
john_dennis wrote on 6/8/2016, 12:58 PM

I've done it. I did a quick one this morning with Vegas 13 and DVD Architect 6. I used MPEG-2 and Sony AVC in the same DVD Architect project and neither was re-encoded.

CantKeepUp wrote on 6/8/2016, 4:10 PM
THANKS guys for the help!! It worked great - no re-encoding with the project type selected as MPEG2 and disc type set to Blu Ray.

That ~4 gig limit on DVDs was such pain.. Now i can make SUPER sized DVDs! and the world is a better place. Thanks again!

Curious - i got the M-disc Blu Ray Burner and M-disc blank discs. Is there anything different i need to do to make sure it burns in M-disc mode? Also, any of you guys using M-disc ? I ALWAYS had problems getting my old dye based DVDs to not skip (even the expensive discs I ordered online)

I am hoping Blu Ray + M-disc is going to be a cure all for all my problems.
PeterDuke wrote on 6/8/2016, 9:10 PM
" no re-encoding with the project type selected as MPEG2 and disc type set to Blu Ray"

The project encoder selected is not relevant if the video file(s) is/are Blu-ray compatible already.
craftech wrote on 6/10/2016, 8:39 AM
Thanks to John Dennis for testing this. Very much appreciated.

John