DVDAS 5.0 b157 Preparing Image Before Each Burn

MSmart wrote on 2/2/2012, 1:39 AM
When I burn a disc or multiple discs from a previously prepared folder, DVDAS 5.0 build 157 creates a new temp file each time. Is anyone else seeing this?

I have always Prepared the disc image in Make DVD then come back and choose Burn with the From previously prepared folder option. In 5.0 build 128 and earlier versions of DVDAS, it used to burn the lead-in then start burning tracks right away. Now it creates a temp file (the size of the disc image) before burning. When the burn process is complete and the Would you like to burn another dialog box pops up, the temp file is deleted!! Before you select either Yes or No! Then when you choose Yes a new temp file has to be created before it starts to burn.

This adds about 8 minutes to each burn process. When burning a 25 or 30 disc project, that's a lot of time added. Burning discs at 4x used to take about 14 minutes, now it's 22.

I have a support question open on this but thought I would post this to see if anyone else is seeing this issue.

Comments

Chienworks wrote on 2/2/2012, 5:57 AM
I rarely ever burn with DVDA(S). After doing the prepare i use Nero (insert your own favorite burning software here) and burn the prepared VIDEO_TS folder to DVD that way. It's a lot faster, even including the verify step at the end.

The other problem i've had with DVDA(S) is that version 5 burns discs that start skipping during the last few minutes. Burning the exact same prepared VIDEO_TS folder with Nero does NOT have this problem at all.
Steve Mann wrote on 2/2/2012, 12:23 PM
My burns do seem to be taking longer lately, I hadn't noticed the rebuild.
MSmart wrote on 2/2/2012, 7:41 PM
Do you have multiple burners? What I'm also seeing with the latest build is that when I burn multiple copies, the drive letter isn't remembered. It always defaults back to the lower letter drive so I *always* have to change it to the second disc drive before I burn. Yet another thing I'm frustrated by with the newer build.

@chienworks, I've seen you and others mentioning using another burner software rather than DVDA(S) but I've never had a problem burning so I've subscribed to "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." up until now. I'm hoping SCS will get it fixed in the next build. If not, I may consider Imgburn.
MSmart wrote on 2/13/2012, 7:51 PM
SCS Customer Service, or at least one individual there, is starting to frustrate me.

I tell them that I'm choosing the From Previously Prepared folder option but twice now, they reply to my open support question, reference number 111209-000105, that I should select the "from previously prepared folder" option. Hello?? Thirteen days elapsed for them to tell me to do something I'm already doing!! It's like they're not even reading what I said.
Steve Mann wrote on 2/13/2012, 10:20 PM
"When I burn a disc or multiple discs from a previously prepared folder, DVDAS 5.0 build 157 creates a new temp file each time. Is anyone else seeing this?"

I irritate lots of people.

Where is the temp file being created?

I don't normally make more than one DVD at a time since I built a DVD duplicator tower. But I did have an occasion to burn a second disk because I screwed up the label printing. I told DVDA to burn another and it started burning almost immediately.
MSmart wrote on 2/14/2012, 12:33 AM
Where is the temp file being created?

In the folder set in Options > Preferences > Burning tab > Temporary files folder.

You should see a file the size of your disc image created there. When disc burning is completed and your prompted to burn another, the temp file is gone. So if you choose yes, a new temp file has to be created, and so on and so on.

It used to be that it didn't create a temp file, if burning from a previously created folder, it would just read the files in your projects VIDEO_TS folder, Burn lead in, burn tracks, burn lead out.

Now it prepares, burn lead in, burn tracks, burn lead out, deletes temp file. The process is repeated for each subsequent burn.
Steve Mann wrote on 2/14/2012, 9:58 AM
I am not sure what's going on here because I opened a window in explorer to monitor the content of my temp folder, then burned a DVD from an existing project. There was no new temp file created.
MSmart wrote on 2/14/2012, 6:26 PM
You're using Architect Studio build 157, correct?

If so, I guess I'll uninstall, reinstall build 120, test and update to 157 again to see how it behaves.
MSmart wrote on 2/17/2012, 10:02 PM
[rant2]
Now I'm officially frustrated. After repeated replies stating what I'm experiencing, here is the reply I got:

What is the result when you attempt to burn a DVD from a previously prepared folder as described in the steps provided?

To which I replied, "Are you for real?.... please transfer my question to another customer support representative as you are not helping me."

One more useless reply and I'm submitting another support question to reference my open one to state I'm not getting help.
[/rant2]
MSmart wrote on 2/18/2012, 1:06 AM
Excerpted from my added reply to my support question:

I decided to take my own advice and see how build 128 behaves. I uninstalled DVDAS and installed build 128. I still have the installer. It performed as expected when using the Previously prepared folder option, it started to burn the lead-in right away then the tracks, no temp file was created. It even remembered the previously used drive letter.

After a successful test with build 128, I updated to build 157. The installer recognized I had an earlier version and proceeded to update it. However, after the update was finished, there was no shortcut on the desktop, no start menu folder, and the Program Files folder for DVD Architect 5.0 was empty, save for a few .dll files and the elua file. You've got to be kidding me.

So I run the Add Remove Programs control panel to uninstall DVDAS then run the build 157 installer which treated it as a new install. I behaved as it did before, it proceeded to prepare a temporary file image!! So I cancel the burn and it didn't stop until the temporary file was completely created. You would expect it to close the temporary file, delete it and cancel the operation, wouldn't you? But no. Oh, the drive letter wasn't remembered and defaulted back to the lower DVD drive letter, G.

Using the Previously prepared folder option and previously used drive works in build 128 but doesn't in build 157.

I can't wait to see how the csr replies to that!
MSmart wrote on 2/24/2012, 6:53 PM
Well, here's the reply I received today....

I was unable to reproduce the issue you've been experiencing using our latest build of DVD Architect Studio 5.0 (build 157).

That's not what I was hoping for. So I ask again, is anyone else having the same issue? I'm on XP SP3 if that makes a difference.
Steve Mann wrote on 2/24/2012, 9:54 PM
I wonder - could DVDA be creating the temp file because you don't have enough RAM? If you can find someone still running Vegas/DVDA on an XP (I'm sure there's at least one), see if they can duplicate it.
MSmart wrote on 2/26/2012, 12:51 AM
RAM isn't the issue. It works properly in build 128 but not in 157 (or the previous update build, 156). They broke it after the initial DVDAS 5.0 release.
PeterDuke wrote on 2/26/2012, 12:59 AM
I installed on my Win XP SP3 2GB RAM machine, DVDAS 4.5 and 5.0 builds 128, 150, 156 and 157 in turn. 4.5 and 5.0 build 128 went straight to burning a leadin from a prepared folder, but builds 150, 156 and 157 prepared an image first, taking about 2 mins to do so.

DVDA Pro (various versions) went straight to burn leadin.

I used a SATA burner for the above tests. My machine normally has two PATA DVD burners, but coincidentally, DVDAS 5.0 builds 150, 156 and 157 did not see them. Furthermore, although ISO Image Writer was available, when the PATA drives were connected, the Next button was greyed out so I could not create an ISO file either.

So builds 150, 156 and 157 have more than one bug not present in earlier versions.
MSmart wrote on 2/26/2012, 8:47 PM
Peter, THANK YOU for taking the time to confirm what I'm seeing. I'll post a link to this thread in my support question to validate the issue, at least for those of us on XP SP3.

Thanks again!! You went above and beyond!
PeterDuke wrote on 2/26/2012, 11:29 PM
You're welcome. Next time you may be able to help someone else, and so on.
MSmart wrote on 3/9/2012, 9:08 PM
Peter, SCS is making me jump through hoops, letting them know you replicated the issue wasn't enough.

They want me to Please try installing the software on a newly created Windows user account. This helps create a fresh install environment for the application.

This, after already stating I reinstalled Windows XP on my PC. After mentioning it again, they repeated the request. To wit I replied, "I reinstalled Windows XP, the problem persists."

I've met the "fresh install environment" request.

Any suggestions for escalating this beyond the one SCS CS rep I've been interacting with?
PeterDuke wrote on 3/9/2012, 10:25 PM
I have not tried getting help from SCS so I can't help you there except for the old saying, "Its the squeaky wheel that gets the oil".
MSmart wrote on 3/21/2012, 3:03 AM
Well I'll be a son of a gun!! It's working as expected now!!! Drive letter is retained and it burns right away without creating a temp file. I didn't make any changes do DVDAS. I've tried this on several projects and they all work as expected.

The only thing I can think of is that the latest set of MS updates resolved the issue. What ever DVDAS uses to call XP functions in the newer builds was broken by an MS update in December. Could it really be?

Peter, does your XP box get MS updates? If so, could you give it another go and let me know? Thanks.
PeterDuke wrote on 3/21/2012, 9:40 AM
Since the time that I did those tests, I have restored Windows from a backup to fix some problem and applied all recent updates.

I now installed DVDAS 5.0 build 157 and tried making a DVD. Last time I had to replace my two PATA burners with a SATA because DVDAS wouldn't see them, but now it wouldn't see the SATA either. Never-the-less I was able to make an ISO file and DVDA did not re-render when I made another ISO. I therefore confirm that your problem seems to have disappeared.

I don't know why DVDAS is not able to see the burners, but it is not important because I don't normally use it and I do my video work on a Win 7 box anyway, so I am not fussed about that.

So you now seem to be happy, and as they say, "All's well that ends well".
MSmart wrote on 3/21/2012, 11:14 AM
What else can I say? You da man!!!

Yes, I'm happy now.

I'll update my support question letting SCS know MS resolved "their" issue. :)
MSmart wrote on 6/3/2016, 5:49 PM
I apologize for digging up an OLD thread.

I wanted to add that while the problem did come back, what after changing the CMOS battery, the issue went away again.

So something in the BIOS settings must have cause the issue and by replacing the battery and having to set the BIOS settings again, the issue was resolved.

As they say, when in doubt, reboot. I can add that changing the CMOS battery or flashing the BIOS is a good second step for those hard to figure out issues.

Anyway, I wanted to post this in case someone actually uses the Search function and this post helps them out.