AVCHD Gag reel crashing project

craftech wrote on 5/20/2016, 12:02 PM
Someone handed me a gag reel to add to the end of a 2 hour 1920 x 1080i project (My normal Sony EX1 mxf project destined to be rendered to m2v for DVDA Blu-ray)

I have done previous projects using only mts files from a Canon camcorder and the m2v render for Blu-ray worked fine, but have never combined the footage with Sony mxf and tried to render. Should have tested it first because I found out the hard way after a fifteen hour render that it didn't work, crashing in the last ten minutes.

Right now I am rendering the 14 minute AVCHD gag reel to a whopping intermediate avi file.
Then I will test render a loop region of just the gag reel to m2v

But there has to be a better way. Any ideas? The quality doesn't even have to be THAT good.

John

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Arthur.S wrote on 5/20/2016, 1:07 PM
When it crashed, did you check whether Vegas had written a file up to that point? It often does. Which means just a 'smart render' of most of your project.
15hrs to render 14mins????
craftech wrote on 5/20/2016, 1:28 PM
Arthur,

15 hours for the entire render which was a 2 hour and 14 minute m2v for DVDA Bluray project, and then it crashed while rendering the last 14 minutes which were the mts gag reel files attached to the end.

Vegas had rendered it perfectly up to that point. I confirmed that the gag reel files were the problem by attempting to render a loop region of only the 14 minutes of mts gag reel files with the project properties set to the 1920 x 1080i square pixel settings and it crashed.

As far as "smart rendering", I have read about it on the forums, but I have never done it.

Right now I have a successful m2v render of the gag reel using the uncompressed avi intermediate, but it took 2 hours for that 14 minute section to render to m2v. That will mean 17 hours total if I render the whole thing using the uncompressed avi gag reel.

So I am now test rendering the gag reel using the built-in avi template HDV 1080i intermediate. The separate avi intermediate rendered in 12 minutes so let's see how much time the m2v takes at the end of the project and how it looks.

EDIT: I stopped the render because it will take almost the same amount of time (2 hours) to render the gag reel portion. Still looking for a solution.

John
Former user wrote on 5/20/2016, 1:30 PM
To make it easy on myself, in your situation, I would render the gag reel as a separate file, then link the end action of the main video to the gag reel. This will also make it easier to delete on future projects should they decide they don't want it.
craftech wrote on 5/20/2016, 1:34 PM
Donald,

That would be tempting, but the long successfully rendered m2v file is not "separate".

HALF of the 14 minutes rendered successfully at the end of it, so unless there is a way to chop off that portion without DVDA wanting to re-render it I don't think I can do that.

John
Former user wrote on 5/20/2016, 1:36 PM
You still have to re-render then if the last part was unsuccessful.

Just my suggestion of course, but render the main video (again) without gag, render gag, link. Then if it crashes, you don't have to render the whole main video again.

have fun, these are frustrating.

And yes, in DVDA, you can set the ending earlier and cut off the last gag segment without re-rendering.
craftech wrote on 5/20/2016, 1:40 PM
OK Donald, That's tempting.

I have TWO m2v files now. Can you explain a little further how I cut off the unwanted portion of ONE m2v file in DVDA and attach another without DVDA re-rendering?

I will be using a separate audio file for the ENTIRE thing.

John
Former user wrote on 5/20/2016, 1:43 PM
Once you get your timeline in DVDA, you can set the Beginning and Ending by sliding the little yellow triangle. This will need to fall on an I frame to be accurate and even then, you might need to test a disk to see if it is a clean out.

then link the end action to the next video.
craftech wrote on 5/20/2016, 1:52 PM
Thanks Donald. I will try that after one last test (in case I run into this again). I am frameserving to Procoder 3 to create a 1920 x 1080i ts file to see if Vegas renders it relatively fast.

Forget it. It created a ts file which Vegas rejected. If I renamed it m2ts, or anything else it still rejected it.

Frustrating.

John
musicvid10 wrote on 5/20/2016, 3:23 PM
If the gag reel avchd is a program stream, it may need a quickstream fix in VideoRedo before including in your Vegas project.

craftech wrote on 5/20/2016, 3:46 PM
Thanks Musicvid.

Right now I am frameserving to Procoder 3 to create an m2p file. I'll try it in Vegas and see if it rejects it.

I don't have VideoRedo. I guess I'll try the trial version.

John
craftech wrote on 5/24/2016, 7:48 AM
Follow-up

Freameserving to Procoder 3 to create an m2p file did indeed make a file that Vegas accepted. I rendered it to a separate m2v as Donald suggested and linked the main video to it in DVDA. The Blu-ray came out perfectly.

Thanks Donald and everyone else for all your suggestions.

John