Disk Prepare Rendering Stops at 91%

Tom K wrote on 4/9/2016, 6:56 PM
Using DVDA 6.0 (Build 237). Trying to prepare a double layer DVD (filesize 6.1GB). I rendered the video using Mainconcept HD720-30p, and when trying to prepare the DVD (not BURN a dvd) it stops every time at 91% for rendering and disc prepare at 45%. It will stay there for hours. I saw forums where changing the DVDA temp file, burn and mastering directories might help but not in my case. I saw forums where burning at a lower speed worked but I'm not burning a DVD.

I rendered this same content at blu-ray 1080-60i and the disk prepare and burn worked perfect. I need a DVD version of it and am having these issues. I'm on Windows 8.1 with 32GB memory, Intel i7 processor, 1TB drive.

Thank you, Tom

Comments

videoITguy wrote on 4/9/2016, 7:09 PM
Most certainly if your disk prepare stops or hangs ( and you have the correctly allocated space to create the temp file) - then it is because of a glitch in your authoring.

Tell us how you moved a successful Blu-ray project and burn into a DVD authoring mode for prepare - and did you change anything of the nature of the media (sound and pic) or the menu structure. Is there subtitles involved?
Tom K wrote on 4/9/2016, 7:22 PM
No changes to the content at all. No subtitles. No DVD menus, just a pure video rendering.

What's different between the two:
- The blu-ray version was done with MainConcept with rendering separately on the video stream and then I used AC-3 Pro on the audio
- Dragged the video into DVDA and the audio picked up as normal
- Can't think of anything else that I would have changed
- Used MainConcept HD720-30p on the DVD version and with this, the video and audio are rendered together.
- I tried this 4 times and the exact same result: 45% and 91% on the stats. Restarted my laptop, did all the usual stuff.

Wondering if the video/audio part of this is the culprit. The recompression?

Thank you for such a quick reply!

videoITguy wrote on 4/9/2016, 8:27 PM
I maybe misunderstanding - sounds like you did NOT create a shell of one authoring project - but rather just created two projects in DVDAPro - one blu-ray - other DVD?

Your video streams should be DVD compliant streams - your choice for DVD as stated is not compliant. You should always use separate elementary streams for audio and video regardless of the project.
Tom K wrote on 4/9/2016, 8:33 PM
Correct, two entirely separate projects in DVDA for blu-ray and DVD.

Why is my choice for DVD not compliant? Not compliant with what? I can't use separate rendering streams for video and audio when I use MainConcept HD720-30p, that selection does not allow a video stream only. Am I missing an option?
videoITguy wrote on 4/9/2016, 9:16 PM
Compliance means appearing compatible which works at two levels -
1) Compliance with a DVD specification
2) Compliance with the expected workflow between a video prep stage ( you are using VegasPro?) and the DVD input authoring stage ( DVDAPro.)

It is in the aspect of number two issue that you are missing the boat on expected workflow. Please review the helpfile for guidance.
Tom K wrote on 4/9/2016, 9:36 PM
I am using Vegas Pro 13 to render both the blu ray and the DVD. The blu ray works with DVDA, the DVD does not. The software workflow is not working, I should not have to think about this, it should just work.

What helpfile are you talking about? What boat did I miss?

Appreciate your guidance, just need to take it further and I'm struggling. I'm not seeing where I did something wrong. Thanks
videoITguy wrote on 4/9/2016, 9:43 PM
You HAVE to visit the helpfile /manual for what DVDAPro has been designed from the outset to do -i.e., USE a workflow for creating the proper video and audio structures. PLEASE READ before you charge on.
Former user wrote on 4/9/2016, 11:36 PM
Did you render a DVD compliant video file or are you trying to use the HD file and let DVDA render it?

You should render a DVD compliant video stream and audio stream from Vegas (separate from the Bluray compliant files).

Do not let DVDA create the streams from the HD file.
TOG62 wrote on 4/10/2016, 12:55 AM
It appears to me that you are rendering a HD file (MainConcept HD720-30p) for an SD DVD project.
Tom K wrote on 4/10/2016, 7:25 AM
OK now I'm getting it, thanks TOG62 and DonaldT. You are correct, I have 1080-60i video I'm putting in the Vegas timeline, and I thought the HD720-30p was what would work on a DVD (I read everywhere that DVDs support 720p) so that's why I picked that for the rendering. I've been rendering using that option for about 5 years now, this is the first time it failed on me (probably because I've always rendered stuff < 25 minutes, this one is 1.5 hours).

Now that I get it, what is DVD compliant? Which option in Vegas? Nothing in Vegas says "dvd compliant". Meanwhile I'll go back to school videoITguy and do some reading, thank you. I've been doing this for about 8 years and have been surviving well, until now. Can't wait to retire and actually take time to KNOW what the heck I'm doing.
Tom K wrote on 4/10/2016, 8:29 AM
Did some reading videoITguy and found what I need, thanks again. That wasn't so hard after all. I'm now using DVD Architect NTSC video widescreen video stream. One question for anyone out there, now that I changed my Vegas properties to the NTSC template, ALL of the pictures in the video are now not wide enough and I have to resize every one of them. Is there a trick to getting them all to fit the NTSC template, or am I doing these one by one?
Arthur.S wrote on 4/10/2016, 1:17 PM
Are you choosing 4:3 NTSC or 16:9?

On the first picture, open up the crop dialogue. In the preset menu dropdown, there's a range of sizes. Try some of those. OR right click on the pic and choose "match output aspect". or "Match source" maybe? If any of those looks how you want it to, right click on it 'copy, right click on the next one and choose "select all to end" then paste.
Tom K wrote on 4/10/2016, 1:32 PM
I'm using NTSC Widescreen which says it's 16:9. I ended up changing all the photos, very painful. Yet the video pieces fit NTSC widescreen just fine, didn't have to do anything to those.

What bothers me is that I usually burn both DVDs and blu-rays with the same .veg file, and that worked when I set the template to HD 720-30p and rendered it as such when making the DVD. I just change the template to HD 1080-60i and render it as blu-ray 1920x1080. This is of course to accommodate those that don't have blu-ray.