OT: seeking opinions on 24p vs 30p

Cliff Etzel wrote on 3/24/2016, 3:48 PM
Recently I ditched all of my Canon DSLR filmmaking gear including all my Nikon MF primes and switched to Olympus since I shoot quite a bit of audio slideshows in addition to my stills based work and primarily shoot video interviews as needed. My Olympus m43 cameras I now shoot with only offer 30p for video and when I shot on my Canons, I defaulted to 24p as I really liked the look of the footage. Now that I"m stuck with 30p, what are others opinions of the frame rate compared to 24p in daily use? Do you determine frame rate based on the project/client or???

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videoITguy wrote on 3/24/2016, 3:59 PM
only the latest of countless threads referencing the situations posed:

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/showmessage.asp?forumid=4&messageid=941161

My reply as it stands is a few down from the OP of that thread.

Canon 24p can be used thru a Cineform intermediate in a traditional 60i project with truly great quality - and THAT is to say there is no one answer as many 'P' rates are derived from sensors that are shooting 60i natively. BUT NOT ALL!
Cliff Etzel wrote on 3/24/2016, 4:43 PM
One of the issues I've seen - even shooting 30p on Canon DSLR's is the smear or jutter from fairly quick movements of hands, etc. That's not something I noticed with 24p on my Canons.

I think my question is somewhat lost in what I'm looking for - the visual aesthetic itself of 24p over 30p. I guess it's a moot point given my cameras dont' shoot other than 30p (my first generation Olympus EM5's only shoot 30p while the EM5 mkii does shoot 24p with a higher bitrate dcodec as well). I do convert my video clips to Cineform still although I'm wondering if something more up to date would work as well, if not better in Vegas without being stuck in an AVI wrapper as we all know MOV files need quicktime and that's a major PITA when editing in Vegas.
Laurence wrote on 3/24/2016, 7:44 PM
30p is more forgiving of the kind of fast movement you get when you use a camera hand held. I don't mind the look of 24p if the camera is on a dolly and doing slow precise movements. Otherwise I prefer 30p.

By the way, 24p looks just fine rendered into 30p. I do it all the time if I have mixed frame rates.
PeterDuke wrote on 3/25/2016, 1:53 AM
"By the way, 24p looks just fine rendered into 30p"

But does it look like 24p or 30p?

If the former, you haven't achieved anything, quality-wise.