Verbatim DataLifePlus BD-R x6

Nel. wrote on 12/25/2015, 1:52 PM
ASUS bw-12b1ST Internal 12x blu-Ray Burner
My BD drive accepts BD-R12x ....BD-R DL 8x BD-R LTH 4x and more formats
As I had issues with a JVC Taiyo Yuden product.... BD-R LTH 6 X 25Gb, my BD writer would NOT accept 6x
I really want the printable feature...
I found VerbatimDatalifePlus, 25 GB 6x blu ray single layer recordable white ink jet hub printable disc, 50 discs spindle
On the label I can read:
For use in drives or recorders that support 6x speed, 25GB Blu ray discs WITHOUT CARTRIDGE.
Insertion of this disc into non-compatible hardware may damage data, disc or hardware...
WHAT ' WITHOUT CARTRIDGE" means?
Even though these discs are only x6.... would that be OK for me to use them?
Thanks

Comments

EricLNZ wrote on 12/25/2015, 3:34 PM
I don't know what the Cartridge reference is.

But you can use 6X discs in a 12X burner. The other way around may give problems though. Trying to burn LTH 6X in a burner that only has specs for LTH 4X was your problem. Dropping the speed isn't the answer as the issue is your burner firmware doesn't recognise the 6X discs. VideoITguy mentioned this in your other thread and suggested you change your media which you've done successfully. You could also check the Asus website to see if a firmware update is available for your burner.
Melachrino wrote on 1/13/2016, 12:33 PM
Some of the first DVD's came protected in cartridges, basically a plastic case.
These cartridges were intended to prevent users from scratching the disc surface or allowing dust on them.
Once inserted, the players would open the cartridge internally and play the disc.
Thank goodness that went the way of the dinausours and now we happily put our thumbprints on the discs and they still play ok... most times.
PeterDuke wrote on 1/13/2016, 5:00 PM
"BD-R LTH "

I think this came up in another thread recently. LTH means "low to high", referring to the way the dye changes reflectivity when burnt. It is apparently a cheaper process than HTL which is normally used, and some disc readers seem to have problems with it.

Don't buy LTH discs. And think twice about JVC TY discs if you can still get them. The quality control seems to have disappeared in the recent batch of Watershield CDs I bought.

The disc container used to be called a caddie. I think that it must be the same thing as a cartridge. I haven't seen one for years.
EricLNZ wrote on 1/14/2016, 1:27 AM
@Peter

I went to look up JVC and found this;

http://www.myce.com/news/victorjvc-media-shutting-down-in-december-76342/

Looks like TY have bowed out completely.
dxdy wrote on 1/14/2016, 9:24 AM
@PeterDuke:

Sad to hear about quality issues with TY. I have used them for years and never had a bad burn. I was thinking about stocking up now that TY are out of production, but with your post I am rethinking, either going to Verbatim or Falcon.

Arthur.S wrote on 1/14/2016, 10:08 AM
I use Falcon BD LTH exclusively now. Never had a bad disc. I think LTH was unreliable at first, much like dual layer DVDs. Most things get better over time....but you can't beat tried and tested. ;-)
PeterDuke wrote on 1/14/2016, 6:04 PM
Since I distribute audio CDs to people with unknown and probably old players, I always check the quality using a LiteON drive and Nero DiscSpeed. This is no guarantee of playability of course, but it helps sort out what may present problems now or in the near future. Some cheap brands pass this test but fail on some players.

I have found CMC Magnetics CDRs to be widely compatible, but they are hard to identify because the the label on the package could be anything. The C1 errors are generally below about 20 and spread out fairly evenly throughout the recording. TY errors are also generally below 20 but only show up as isolated spikes. C2 should always be 0.

In the recent batch of TYs, about 3/4 of the discs showed this pattern, but the remainder showed C1 up to 50 or more, and about 5% showed extremely high values with C2 errors as well.

I wondered if my burner was on the way out ,so I burnt some more with the burner on another computer, but with similar results.

The labeling on the packages says, "JVC Victor Advanced Media Co Ltd. Joint venture of Taiyo Yuden Co Ltd and Victor Company of Japan, Limited."

There is also the part#, UPC bar code, quantity, and description (CDR Silver Watershield). Made in Japan. For professional use. There is no mention of maximum burn speed. (Silver is a misnomer, by the way. They are a sort of silvery white.)

Nero Discspeed reports:
Disc type: CDR
Manufacturer: Taiyo Yuden
MID: 97m24s01f
Write speeds: 16X - 24X - 32X - 40X - 48X
Capacity: 79:59.72 (min:sec), 703 MB
Usage: General

I also have another batch from another supplier, which has no information whatever on the packages, but they were sold as White Watershield. Nero Discspeed reports the same info as the silver watershield batch. I have not tried this batch yet, so I cannot comment on quality. (This batch is actually a replacement from the supplier who sent me DVDs by mistake. The DVDs only said that they were made by JVC and TY, and nothing else.) In view of the poor labeling and poor quality, I wander whether the manufacturing dregs are now being distributed in view of the imminent shut down of manufacture.

Note that I am talking about CDs. I don't distribute DVDs or BDs and my experience may not be reflected there. I just say, "Caveat emptor!".