OT: 8K video on YouTube

VidMus wrote on 9/28/2015, 10:33 AM

I cannot play 4k video on YouTube. So much for 8k...

Spectralis wrote on 9/28/2015, 11:49 AM

I have an average UK broadband wired connection 18mbps and 4k judders along unable to play so 8k is out of the question. Also my laptop and PC screen are HD as are my other devices so it seems like a nice technology for the future unless you have a 4k TV now. I can't imagine streaming 4k let alone 8k unless my ISP and others have a revelation and kindly double download speeds for > 90% of the UK population. What are average internet connection speeds like in other countries because here 4k streaming is a pipe dream unless you pay significant monthly fees?

rs170a wrote on 9/28/2015, 12:08 PM

Spectralis, at work (Windsor, Ontario Canada) I'm getting (according to speedtest.net) 126 Mbps down and 6 Mbps up. Definitely a lot faster than at home which I'll have to check later today.

Mike

wwjd wrote on 9/28/2015, 12:47 PM

don't forget: all these network speeds are only going up in the future :)

Arthur.S wrote on 9/28/2015, 1:00 PM

My not particularly fast 'Sky Fibre' connection played it perfectly. Have to say I was wondering if it really is 8k. Not impressed at all. I've seen 'normal' 1080p look better.

Edit: That's why - it doesn't play 8k automatically. You have to switch it.......dohhhhhhh!!

musicvid10 wrote on 9/28/2015, 2:24 PM

I'll get back to you on this one - probably a long time after I get 1080p playing smoothly.

Spectralis wrote on 9/28/2015, 6:36 PM

126mpbs down and 6mpbs up is fantastic! Possibly many commercial speeds reach these levels even in the UK. But looking at this list for 2014 my 18mbps down is above average in the UK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Internet_connection_speeds

Even the fastest average d/l speed is only 25mbps in S. Korea. Not sure what speeds 4k needs but 8k probably needs double or maybe 4x faster download speeds for streaming. The limitation now appears to be streaming speeds and computation power for playback not the resolution of the content.

astar wrote on 9/28/2015, 6:42 PM

lol ... "Some shots simply scaled up by 125% from 6.1K to meet the 7.6K standard."

lame. I was wondering where Neumannfilms got a true 8K imaging device.

I am going to scale some of my 4k DSLR Timelapse footage and call it 8k shooting on YouTube. :/

Very Baraka 1992 that ghost towns short, and a nice gimmick to get 4 million hits on YouTube. :)

The news that YouTube supports 8K is interesting and is probably more in line with their Google Fiber connection, and Comcast's Gigabit pro service. There was an article in the last couple weeks on Sharp selling 8K displays, but for a pretty penny. But if you live in Silicon Valley with Google Fiber/Comcast, and your garage is already full of Telsas, you might need a 130K TV to show off to your friends.

rs170a wrote on 9/28/2015, 6:43 PM

Yes it is but that's my workplace. Reality sets in once I get home to 14 Mbps down and 2 Mbps up. In defence of my ISP (local cable company) I don't have the fastest package but it suits my needs for home use.

Mike

Dexcon wrote on 9/28/2015, 7:14 PM

36Mbps down; 1 Mbps up - cable connection - Melbourne, Australia.

I understand that the majority of broadband connections in Australia are via ADSL2, so average speeds in Australia will be slower than available via cable.

john_dennis wrote on 9/28/2015, 8:48 PM

I enjoy 4K from Netflix on my 4K TV. youtube is too much of a hassle.

Two out of three of my systems will download 4K from youtube and downsample it to the 1920x1080 screen resolution. My laptop with an AMD mobile video adapter blue screens when I try to watch 4K from youtube. Too lazy (disinterested) to change drivers to download 4K content only to be down-sampled to 1600x900 on a laptop screen.

I have a long way to go before I'll have any interest in 8K. Don't have any plans to get a 90" TV. Don't have any plans to replace all my current TVs. I'm going to let this one simmer before I jump in.

NickHope wrote on 9/29/2015, 1:26 AM

No 60p option? :(

fldave wrote on 9/29/2015, 6:21 AM

33MB download and 7 upload. The video was gorgeous, but something wouldn't let me play it, crappy video card, probably. I had lots of video buffered, but it paused every 8-10 seconds. 4K played perfectly, though.

JJKizak wrote on 9/29/2015, 8:13 AM

I wonder if it would work on my 3 meg connection a little bit at a time?
JJK

pilsburypie wrote on 10/5/2015, 5:16 AM

Huugh? I only get the 4k option on that video and even then it comes up as a green screen.....

wwjd wrote on 12/30/2016, 1:40 PM

did some reading on YouTube data.... they use something called Content Delivery Network that makes things better for them, but not for viewers. Often, the CDN links can't delivery fast enough for smooth playback - even at 1080. you can BLOCK some CDNs in your security firewall, forcing youtube to fetch from youtube directly which is faster. just some handy info pertaining to YT 4k adn 8k playback. I can set it to 8k, but my 1080 laptop gpu struggles to play it smoothly.

ushere wrote on 12/30/2016, 5:37 PM

I wonder if it would work on my 3 meg connection a little bit at a time?
JJK

yep - we poor sods with pathetic connections are never going to experience the joys of 4k on our 1080 screens....

NickHope wrote on 12/31/2016, 10:57 AM

did some reading on YouTube data.... they use something called Content Delivery Network that makes things better for them, but not for viewers. Often, the CDN links can't delivery fast enough for smooth playback - even at 1080. you can BLOCK some CDNs in your security firewall, forcing youtube to fetch from youtube directly which is faster...

The whole point of a CDN, like YouTube's, is to deliver content faster. Content gets farmed out to a network of regional servers where it can be delivered faster locally. If you start disabling those local servers in your firewall then there's a good chance you'll make things slower or non-functional.