Templates for internet still huge output

tfer2 wrote on 7/19/2015, 11:21 AM

I have a 5 minute video made from some hd footage 1920 x 1080 and some 680 video. When I selected the template I picked one that said "for output to internet". It came out as an mp4 file but was 680 mb
1920x1080
13754 kbps data rate
13882 kbps total bitrate
29 frames/second frame rate
127 kbps bit rate
48 khz audio sample
I have a small cap on internet usage and currently tried uploading it to Youtube via a local hotspot. I guess its pretty slow as its been more than an hour and only uploaded 40% so far.
When I put another video of similar size on Youtube they compressed it to about 50 mb and it looked ok at 480p. Could someone tell me the correct template to use to compress this myself like they do? Thanks

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Chienworks wrote on 7/19/2015, 2:17 PM

If you want the size advantages of 480p, then use or create a 480p template. At that size you should be able to use a bitrate about 1/6 what you would use for full 1080p and have a nearly identical compression factor.

The output file size is determined by two factors: duration and bitrate. If you want a smaller file then make it shorter or use a lower bitrate, or both. That's all there is to it.

tfer2 wrote on 7/20/2015, 5:21 AM

Thanks for the reply and info. Still very much to learn about video editing. I'm just happy if I can get the clips together in a decent way but then there are all the technical aspects to try to figure out. I had a look at what Youtube did to the video and saw that one can view it all the way up to 1080p. If someone has a fast enough connection and unlimited plan I'd just assume they look at it at the highest quality so I think that's good. Still their compressed version was 200 mb and mine 680 at 1080p. They have a link to show you how to put your video in the right format and it lists so many variables I came away more confused than before. So now I guess I'll be in the search for the right 1080p template. If I had used exactly the same compression scheme they used and gotten mine down to 200mb would they have compressed it further and maybe affected the video quality?

Chienworks wrote on 7/20/2015, 7:10 AM

As mentioned before, the size is entirely determined by the duration and the bitrate. If you want a smaller file, use a lower bitrate. That's the complete and utter entirety of the issue. So, open up the [Custom] settings in the render settings and use a lower bitrate. Done.

However, i'll point out that youtube is probably using a better compression than Vegas. If you lower the bitrate enough to reach your goal in Vegas then the quality will probably suffer quite a bit. A lot of us render to uncompressed in Vegas, then use Handbrake to create the finished compressed file as it does a much better job than Vegas does.

tfer2 wrote on 7/21/2015, 6:12 AM

Thanks. I used the handbrake program and it got a 680 mb video down to 320 which is progress. I didn't find any settings to affect bitrate. However I just read a newer post that says don't use "make movie" command to render. That's what I always did so next time I'll look for the file as area to get more options.

RickPowerline wrote on 8/14/2015, 9:53 PM

I use the Render As command in the file menu. I use both SD and HD files. Remember that 99% of your viewers are seeing your vid on a small screen and often on a smart phone. They really cant tell the difference between a good clear SD file and an HD one. I use the .AVI format I used to use the. wmv format, but it takes too long to render. If I'm using a 720x480 file, I go for the best one with the same frame rate as my file. If I'm using an HD file, I use the first one in the list with the same frame rate.I am repeating the bit about frame rate because it really impacts render time and image quality, just like gearboxing digital audio files.

musicvid10 wrote on 8/15/2015, 8:53 AM

Use 720p internet template.
Smaller files, more playable at home and on YouTube.

tfer2 wrote on 8/15/2015, 5:55 PM

Thanks for the above 2 comments. I'll have to try that 720p setting next time.