Sony HDR-TD30V 3D Files / Vegas Pro 13

anthony-chiappette wrote on 5/20/2015, 5:49 AM

How do I edit these in Vegas Pro 13? What 3D file type and project settings do I use?

I'm use to having 3D videos side by side in one frame, but these come up as 2 separate video tracks. I can't seem to get 3D in the preview. My main use for this would be to extract 3D still images from the videos, but I can't see how to do this.

I'm not a professional, just an enthusiast.

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DualEdge wrote on 5/21/2015, 8:22 AM

I don't have the TD30V, but I have the TD20V and I believe they use the same file formats. In Vegas Pro 13, I usually set my project settings to 1920 x 1080i 29.97fps with the side-by-side 3D format. If you drop a 3D file on your timeline and just allow VP13 to match the file properties, I'm pretty sure it'll set these items for you. When rendering, you can use the AVCHD templates or the Blu-ray ones (though you MAY have to lock to 24fps if you didn't already shoot your video in that framerate).
As for 3D in your preview, what GPU are you using? Going purely off memory, you will need to go into the Preferences menu and under "Preview Device" set the Stereoscopic 3D option to "Left and Right". The last thing to check is the actual 3D clip properties. Make sure that the Stereoscopic 3D setting is set to something other than "Off" (I usually use "Pair with next stream"). At this point, you should be able to go Full screen (assuming your computer's 3D setup is correct) and see your footage in 3D. Hope some of that helps!

anthony-chiappette wrote on 5/21/2015, 9:01 PM

Thanks. I initially tried "pair with next stream" for the video properties" and this didn't work. But now when I open a video file in Vegas, it's on a single video track, and I get the desired 3D.

I don't know if it has to do with importing the videos from the camera vs. copying them. When I copied the files from the camera in windows explorer, I got MTS files. When I imported them through the Play Memories Home software, the files were M2TS, which are working fine in Vegas, and also Movie Studio Platinum 13.

With the TD30V, I don't think there is an option to set the frame rate when recording 3D. I think it only does 60i.

Wolfgang S. wrote on 5/22/2015, 4:21 AM

Some additional comments:

- if you enable in the project settings AND s3D modus, Vegas will recognice the TD10/20/30 footage as s3D if you import the footage into Vegas. But you have to adjust the project settings to s3D BEFORE you import the footage.

- the consumer versions of the TD10/20/30 record with 1080 50i/60i only. So no 24p. I would not go for side-by-side half as final product, since you will loose a lot of quality (what you will see on a 100inch beamer for example in a very clear way). So what you can do is to render the timeline after editing with the Sony AVC/MVC encoder to MVC - and burn a 3D-Blu-ray.

Vegas will allow you to render to 720 50p/720 60p or 1080 24p only, since that are the specifications for s3D on Blu-ray. So if you come from TD10/20/30 footage a good way can be to render to 720 50p/60p - you will loose resolution but you will maintain the quality of movements. And burn that to BD-R/RE for a 3D-BD.

Especially if you edit 1080 60i in the NTSC countries, you can also try to render to 1080 24p in a direct way - some people like that, some say that they will see here some render artefacts given the change in the frame rate.

That is all true if you go for 3D-BD.

- if you are not going for 3D-BDs another option to playback the 1080 50i/60i footage could be to use the stereoscopic player. Her you can render to 1080 50i/60i, and I think that the player will be able to take together the L and the R stream. Or you render (with the Mainconcept AVC-encoder) to side-by-side full. That is something you would have to try.

- the preview in both Vegas and Vegas Moviestudio with nvidia 3D-vision will work only if you use a Quadro card in your PC. With a passive monitor it will work with sby-half as preview also without a Quadro card.

- it should not matter if you import the stream with the PMH or with the internal tool in Vegas

andreas-georgiou wrote on 7/1/2018, 6:28 PM

Hi, I have been editing 3D M2TS files for a while now and burning onto BD with great results in movie studio 13, latest project on vegas pro 14 when I imported the M2TS 3D files (generated via a Sony HDR TD20 and imported on the laptop via "play memories Home" which automatically converts MTS to M2TS files), the video imported as two separate video tracks, I thought it might be a vegas pro 14 difference between vegas studio 13 I was previously using.

Having spend two weeks editing and ready to burn to BD, I just realised that the properties of the clips show 3D off.

Any suggestions

1 - of how I can change the properties of all the clips (rather than each individual clip x 2 as there are two tracks)from 3D = off to pair with next?

2 - Do I need to keep the two video tracks or is there a way I can combine them like previously to a single 3D track without loosing all the fx's?

Update, I have just found out by playing around that by selecting the two video tracks and right click, there is a menu item "Pair as stereoscopic 3D subclips" this does the job nicely. Only gribe is there is no real indication that something is happening other than the cooling fans speeding up. So be patient.

Can also be done by selecting two clips rather than full tracks.

Clip properties automatically change to "Pair with next" as well!

Thanks