"Connect" two events

Barry W. Hull wrote on 4/3/2015, 9:45 AM
Anyone know of an easy way to "connect" two events on the timeline?

I'm looking for a way to fade out so that the fade flows smoothly across two events. If I could somehow turn them into a single event, this would be simple.

I know I can render two events, place it on the timeline, then fade, but I seem to recall doing this with a couple of easy clicks... have long since forgotten, maybe I was dreaming.

Thanks,

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johnmeyer wrote on 4/3/2015, 10:00 AM
OK, let's have a contest. There hasn't been enough of this in these forums lately (too much about crashing, bashing, and gnashing of teeth).

Here's my entry:

Fade Lower Tracks

The lower two tracks have some generated media composited together using track opacity. This is meant to simulate whatever you are doing with your two existing events. I then added the top track, put a black generated media event on that track, and then used a composite envelope to fade that. This controls what shows through to the final render, and provides the fade.

You can use the event fade on this generated media instead of using the track composite envelope, if you prefer.

I'll bet that other people can top this, and come up with a better way to do it.


OldSmoke wrote on 4/3/2015, 11:22 AM
I believe the OP is looking for events that are on the same track, but are faded by starting at the beginning of event 1 and ending at the end of event 2.

I think there are two ways, a) fade to color envelop and composite envelop.

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john_dennis wrote on 4/3/2015, 11:28 AM
"[I]...an easy way to "connect" two events on the timeline?[/I]"

I interpret this to mean there are two clips on the timeline, one after the other and that you are looking for "[I]a way to fade out so that the fade flows smoothly across two events.[/I]"

To me, that's analogous to a "split" and you want to fade out across a split.

Proposal:

Put a black generated media clip above the clips and fade the black clip in.

Example Project

I don't remember making this up all on my own. I learned it from Lawrence.
xberk wrote on 4/3/2015, 11:39 AM
I can see using this for a long fade out on a dissolve between two events -- or maybe a continuation of a montage of shots that fades out during the montage. I favor the "composite envelope fade" across the two or multiple events as faster than using the black generated media on a track above. But both work fine. Vegas almost always has multiple ways of doing the same thing.

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Barry W. Hull wrote on 4/3/2015, 12:29 PM
Yes, two events on the timeline on the same track, touching each other.

I have several interview clips that ended abruptly so when the talking stopped and their mouth closed so they didn't look silly, I saved a snapshot, put it at the end, and wanted to fade across the snapshot through to the end of the interview.

The black media above is a great idea, simple and workable, and allows me to avoid all that compositing, which I so rarely use it's like starting over every time I try it.

I was probably dreaming, but I thought there was some way to connect two events, maybe it was to reconnect a split.

Thanks, and yes, a nice departure from so much complaining, which unfortunately I seem to enjoy as much as most.

I have my issue resolved, but still curious, can you actually connect two events sitting side by side on a track?
Barry W. Hull wrote on 4/3/2015, 12:33 PM
John, tried your example, just what I was looking for, thanks.
TheHappyFriar wrote on 4/3/2015, 12:34 PM
I'm going to ask a question: can you draw a picture of what you want? I don't understand the question.
Barry W. Hull wrote on 4/3/2015, 1:07 PM
I'm not sure how to draw a picture, but yes, trying to remove a split between two events, so that they are treated as a single event.

It is actually not a split of a single event, but two entirely different events beside each other on the timeline. One event ends, the other begins, as if they are split, and I'm wondering if there is a way to join them so they are treated as a single event.

Maybe this will work:
Is there a way to join the two events on the timeline?
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Chienworks wrote on 4/3/2015, 1:25 PM
I imagine in newer versions of Vegas this could be accomplished with fade progression envelopes. Start the fade on the first event but have it only progress to, say, 50%. Then on the second event have a fade start at 50% and continue to 0%.
johnmeyer wrote on 4/3/2015, 1:40 PM
If all you need is a fade, then the "solution" gets really simple: just use the track composite envelope (Insert --> Video Envelopes --> Track Composite Level).

This snapshot illustrates how easy it is:



What's more, you can right-click on the envelope and change its shape or add more points, so you actually have more control over the fade than the usual event fade.


[edit] BTW, if you want to freeze the last frame of a clip, you can do it with a velocity envelope. This is much faster than taking a snapshot and re-importing that clip, AND it also lets you slow down the motion prior to the freeze frame, if you want to. I described how to do this, over a decade ago, in this thread:

Stop action at a specific frame - simpler solution

If you do your freeze frame this way, you actually will only have one single event, and to do your fade out, you won't need any of the techniques discussed so far in this thread.




Barry W. Hull wrote on 4/3/2015, 1:55 PM
johnmeyer, you just saved me a lot of time. Thanks.
farss wrote on 4/3/2015, 2:56 PM
If you want to get the two clips to behave as one on the Vegas timeline there is only one way to do this. Put the two clips in a nested project.

I wish Vegas had a more elegant way of doing this.

Bob.

TheHappyFriar wrote on 4/3/2015, 3:55 PM
Ahhhh, ok.

I do stuff like That all the time. But the events together. Select what I want then render to new track. Then I'd do what I want to that piece. I might group it all together if I plan on moving it all around too.
Tim Stannard wrote on 4/3/2015, 5:29 PM
Gotta love the software censorship THF! I'm guessing the word that was ****d out could have been replaced with "abut".
TheHappyFriar wrote on 4/4/2015, 6:43 AM
To many "t"'s in my "but". :) So my horrible spelling and grammar is now worse. :p
PeterDuke wrote on 4/4/2015, 6:48 AM
Is buttt alright?

Yep.