VP13 Import Media frustration

DeadRadioStar wrote on 2/2/2015, 4:00 PM
Although I felt like I needed to hit myself in the face with a hammer in the hope it might be less painful than watching VP13 thrash about for yet another 15 minutes in the Import Media dialog before ultimately declaring an MP4 (AVC/AC3) file "unknown", I decided to come on here and have a rant instead :-)

If I could have one feature request in the next update, it would simply be to allow the process to be interrupted; when this happens, the Cancel button, though not greyed out, does not respond; in fact, at that point VP is hung and if I want out, it means Task Manager.

Seriously, freeware programs will either load a file or not, they don't lock up the application! By the way, the file in question opens instantly in VLC, Handbrake, WMP .... but this is not about formats, it's about trying to understand how an allegedly professional application can have such a hard time loading a video file.

It's been grinding away on all cores now while I've been writing this and no end in sight, time for the hammer I think ... sorry, I meant Task Manager. Am I the only one losing my mind over this? Surely this is a basic function of a video editing application?

Comments

musicvid10 wrote on 2/2/2015, 4:58 PM
Rather than sweeping generalizations, post your file properties using MediaInfo.
DeadRadioStar wrote on 2/2/2015, 5:02 PM
It's not about this specific file, it's the fact that once VP begins to "think" about loading any file it doesn't instantly recognise, there's no way to interrupt it - the application freezes.
farss wrote on 2/2/2015, 5:14 PM
Agree, that is a major source of frustration that I've learned to just factor into my workflow. How new users respond to what happens is another matter. At times I can "touch" a file and have Vegas just sit there refusing to respond for an hour as it reads a massive MXF file. If I didn't know not to try to fix what ever it is that Vegas is doing I can cause it to crash and this has applied to all versions of Vegas for as long we've moved to a tapeless workflow.

ps: It has little to do with the codec and a lot to do with the file size.

Bob.
Chienworks wrote on 2/2/2015, 6:28 PM
Yes, i get the feeling that for some formats, Vegas decides to read through the *ENTIRE* file before doing anything else. It's not all file types. I can open a 60GB MPEG file and Vegas only pauses for a second or less. 4GB DV files are instantaneous. Some other odd types can take ages even on files smaller than 4GB.

Sadly, this operation is application-modal.
DeadRadioStar wrote on 2/3/2015, 3:19 AM
The really frustrating thing is that there's a "Cancel" button there which does not respond once VP starts to read the file. With experience one learns that if VP doesn't display the stream info pretty much instantly in the lower part of the dialog, it's never going to do it, so the process might as well be interrupted. Instead you have to wait until the entire file gets processed (what is it doing?) only to be told it's "unknown".

Please, SCS, make the "Cancel" button work!
musicvid10 wrote on 2/3/2015, 1:09 PM
If Vegas is not opening your file, post the complete media properties using MediaInfo.

You may need a codec or a remux, or MOST LIKELY, it is an "unfixed" transport stream that contains too many errors. But we'll never know without the properties!.[

I'm hearing a bit of echo in here today, are you?
DeadRadioStar wrote on 2/3/2015, 3:06 PM
@musicvid10, with all due respect, and thanks for the offer of help, but the issue is not this specific file, so there's no point in posting the properties; the issue is the fact that the process is non-interruptable in VP without killing it in Task Manager -- which is time-wasting and not at all professional.

And yes, I'm hearing a bit of echo here as well.