Multimedia CD Burning - QuickTime

Evelyn wrote on 2/13/2002, 1:21 PM

Hi everyone,
I'm new to Vegas and really like it so far. Used to use Premier on a Mac and this is much better.
Been successful at capturing digital and analog (with Canopus ADVC100) and outputting to tape, camera controls etc.

Now trying to make the multimedia output to CD.
When I burn a Multimedia CD with a quicktime 5 movie on it (which plays fine from the hard drive),
it seems to burn just fine but when I try to run it, I get the error message can't find the file when I try to open it
in the Quicktime player or with IE or Netscape. It is on the CD (same size as on harddrive) and
I even tried not using the web page option. Still the same problem.

I have been using Easy CD creator with the NEC drive that I have and it burns fine and loads fine but have not installed
it as I figured it would probably conflict with Vegas and I have my system very clean and sparse.

I can read other quicktime movies from the CD drive, even those rendered with earlier quicktimes on my Quadra 650 Mac with Premier!

I read the posts from back in January on this issue and on VCD issue and wonder if anyone knows anything further
on this.

Thanks a bunch in advance and I am glad to join this community.
Evelyn

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Sony_DaveS wrote on 2/13/2002, 2:07 PM

Evelyn,

What OS are you using?

When you create the CD, and select to have it played inside a webpage, what happens when the newly-burned disc is put in the drive? Does a webpage with a "powered by Sonic Foundry" graphic appear? Or do you get an error?

I'm assuming you are getting the error message when you try to directly open the .mov file from the CD. What is the extact wording of the message?

Thanks in advance for the additional info.
Dave

Evelyn wrote on 2/13/2002, 2:19 PM

I am using WIN2K professional. I have tried a variety of the options, but even just
right clicking and opening the CD (not running the webpage or the autoinf) file I get the response:

I used the Tweeks on Win2K mentioned by someone in an earlier Forum from the Videoguys.com website.
I have a promise RAID setup.

Cannot play back the video stream: no suitable decompressor could be found.

in Windows Media Player and the response "Couldn't open the file because the file
was not found" when trying to open it from the Quicktime player.

I have a NEC NR 7700A DVD Rom and a MATSHITA DVD-ROM SR8585.

I made a quicktime file and then selected that one. I tried Default and 512Kbps.

Thanks,
Evelyn

PS.

Also, I am wondering if one can capture Full Size DV footage and make a smaller (ie. 320x240) file
without recapturing the footage at the output size? I would suppose that is possible but haven't figured
out how yet. I want to be able to make both Back to DV Tape output as well as Multimedia CD and in the
future DVD output from the same capture. I hope that is possible. :-)
I used the Tweeks on Win2K mentioned by someone in an earlier Forum from the Videoguys.com website.
I have a promise RAID setup.

Sony_DaveS wrote on 2/14/2002, 10:58 AM

Well, I was able to repro the QuickTime issue. We are currently investigating it. Might only be an issue on 2K/XP boxes. I'll let you know if it will be fixed for any future Vegas updates once I know.

I'll also forward your question about DV footage to someone here. Thanks.

bobmueller wrote on 2/14/2002, 11:05 AM

Hi Evelyn,

I also am new and own the Canopus ADVC100 but have not been able to make it work with SF capture program, How are you doing it ??

THanks

Bob

SonyEPM wrote on 2/14/2002, 11:13 AM

"I am wondering if one can capture Full Size DV footage and make a smaller (ie. 320x240) file without recapturing the footage at the output size...I want to be able to make both Back to DV Tape output as well as Multimedia CD and in the
future DVD output from the same capture. I hope that is possible."

If you have captured a DV clip, think of that as the Master- all dubs to whatever format you want should be made from that. You can print that clip back to DV, make an MPEG-2 for DVD, and make a streaming file (320x240 etc) using the same master source clip.

If you make a project (using multiple media clips), there is no need to render that to one format and then render it again- just render the project in separate passes to your destination formats.

Evelyn wrote on 2/14/2002, 8:49 PM

I have not used it extensively yet, but have been successful at capturing more than 10 minutes and creating both
an AVI and a Quicktime output file with no problems. (to disk).
I have a Hi-8 deck that I have the outputs of going into the front of the Canopus unit. I was both able to get the
RCA video and the S-video input to work so I am sticking with S-Video. Audio comes in fine too.
On the back of the unit I have the analog outs going into my ins VHS deck that is hooked up to my TV.
(actually I have a patch panel but that is just for convenience).

I have the Firewire output on the back of the unit going to my OCHI compliant Firewire card in the computer.
The front of the unit
is hooked up to my digital camera, but for this capture I disconnected the digital camera from the unit, not as to confuse things.
Then I powered on the unit and set the unit to Analog with the switch on the front, and loaded the capture program in Vegas and it worked fine, but of course, does not
control the deck so I have to turn it on and off with my remote or take a short walk...

We'll see if there are issues I have not discovered yet. Am currently trying to work out the Quicktime bugs when making
files to CD and it seems SF response was that they have duplicated the problem and are looking into it.
I will post another message in this thread that is specific to what else I have found on that...

I have not tried to print back to analog tape, because I probably won't need to do that since I have a DV camera that works.

Good luck, it did take me a few tries to make it work but then it now seems to work fine.

Evelyn wrote on 2/14/2002, 9:02 PM

For SonicDaveS:
I have discovered some other oddities about this Quicktime issue:
I can read the CD and play the quicktime file on my Windows98 machine. My 2000 machine does not read
it, though it made that disk nicely.

I then tried making an audio CD from one of the tracks and it won't do that at all but gives me a message
after halfway through testing for the that some files are missing for burning to the CD. The details of the message are:

'ATAPI MMC Compatible'-(0)
'atapi'-(1)
-'_NEC NR-7700A 1.01'-(0)
Module atapimmc.cpp Line 1462

Status: 00000000
Command:
Sense: 00 00 00
Info: 00 00 00 00
Specific: 00 00 00
Extra:

I am wondering if this relates to the new DirectX 8.1 that I had to download as the DirectX 8.0 version that was required per your website with link to Microsoft was no longer available? I didn't need a patch as was needed on the Directx 8.0
that your site mentions as 8.1 has everything in it...

I have Win2KProf version 5, Service Pack 2. I have discovered that my Media Player is 6.4.09.1109 on the Win2K machine and the Media Player on the 98 machine 4.10.1998.
I have not downloaded any new Media Player components since I installed Windows 2000.
I did download the full quicktime (not pro) a few days ago and that is what I am working with.

Any particular drivers other than those that ship with Windows
that are required for the CD ROM burner to work with Vegas?

Another strange issue related to capturing video. I cannot get the capture program to put the capture files in the
directory I specify, but it ALWAYS puts in the Administrator MY DOCUMENTS folder. I am logging in as Administrator, but
I specify to put the files on another drive.
The output files go there nicely but not the captured files.

That is all for now.

Sony_DaveS wrote on 2/21/2002, 3:36 PM

Good News Evelyn,

We found the Quicktime Multimedia CD bug and fixed it. It will be in the 3.0a update that should be released soon.

Thanks again,
Dave

Evelyn wrote on 2/21/2002, 10:40 PM

Thanks Dave, looking forward to the update.
I wonder, is there something I am overlooking in capturing files
(using Win2K) that I need to do to get the captured files to go
to a directory other than MY Documents on the System drive (same drive
as Vegas3 is installed on)? I log in as administrator and unless I am missing
something, the captured files will not go to my other drive even if
I set the path to it in the Project Properties, Audio Tab. It always ends up in My documents.
The rendered files go to the right place as do the temporary files.
Maybe I should make this a different post...

SonyEPM wrote on 2/22/2002, 8:23 AM

The capture tool has a disk managment preference page- this is where you assign destination folders for captured video.