How to connect a keyboard and drum kit for custom loops -ACID Product Family

Subject:How to connect a keyboard and drum kit for custom loops Posted by: RKTect001 Date:2/10/2002 9:20:33 AM Yo - I have a Yamaha DTXpress electronic drum kit and a Casio Tonebank keyboard that I would like to use to create custom loops. I have Acid DJ 3.0 and Majix Music Studio, Generation Five. Any tips on how to patch in [midi interface?] how to create and then drop in the loops will be appreciated. Thanks for your help!!!
Subject:RE: How to connect a keyboard and drum kit for custom loops Reply by: jibweasel Date:2/10/2002 2:53:56 PM Do you want to use a sequencer to triger the sounds on your kit/keybaord. Or do you want to use them to trigger sounds on your computer. Or both? If your drum kit and keyboard have midi input and output I would buy a 2in/2out midi interface like the Midiman Usbsport 2x2 www.midiman.com then you can do both. If you want to use midi to triger the sounds on your kit/keyboard you would need a sequencer of some sort. Then record this through the soundcard although a decent soundcard would be very worthwhile cause sounblasters audio inputs are awfull. If you want to triger sounds on your computer from the kit/keyboard you would need a soft synth and/or sampler. You can either use a stnndalone version or one that plugs into a sequencer. There are very few standalone synths or samplers though. Also it may prove triky to record standalone programs while listening to Acid at the same time. But it would be simpler to do if you got it sorted out this way. A second soundcard dedicated to the softsynth or sampler should solve any recording problems. The second but more complicated option is using a VST sequencer like Cubase ,Logic or Sonar. You would also have access to loads of freeware soft synths and drum samplers. What i would do would be.. 1. make a temporary wav mixdown of my acid project. 2. load this into cubase/logic/sonar making sure the tempo is set identical. 3. load up a VSTi soft synth of sampler. 4. record the MIDI of what i play. You would play the synth/sampler but only record the midi. 5. optionly edit the midi. 6. record this down to wav. 7. load it into soundforge and cut it up as required then drop it into acid. If you know sombody who uses a VST sequencer im sure they could show you how to do it in 10 minutes although working it out for youself could be a headache. Also theres the problem of soundcard latency. You might need to buy a new soundcard otherwise the delay between hitting your drum pads and hearing the sound could be very slow. chris

Do you want to use a sequencer to triger the sounds on your kit/keybaord. Or do you want to use them to trigger sounds on your computer. Or both?

If your drum kit and keyboard have midi input and output I would buy a 2in/2out midi interface like the Midiman Usbsport 2x2

www.midiman.com

then you can do both.

If you want to use midi to triger the sounds on your kit/keyboard you would need a sequencer of some sort. Then record this through the soundcard although a decent soundcard would be very worthwhile cause sounblasters audio inputs are awfull.

If you want to triger sounds on your computer from the kit/keyboard you would need a soft synth and/or sampler. You can either use a stnndalone version or one that plugs into a sequencer.

There are very few standalone synths or samplers though. Also it may prove triky to record standalone programs while listening to Acid at the same time. But it would be simpler to do if you got it sorted out this way. A second soundcard dedicated to the softsynth or sampler should solve any recording problems.

The second but more complicated option is using a VST sequencer like Cubase ,Logic or Sonar. You would also have access to loads of freeware soft synths and drum samplers. What i would do would be..

1. make a temporary wav mixdown of my acid project.
2. load this into cubase/logic/sonar making sure the tempo is set identical.
3. load up a VSTi soft synth of sampler.
4. record the *MIDI* of what i play. You would play the synth/sampler but only record the midi.
5. optionly edit the midi.
6. record this down to wav.
7. load it into soundforge and cut it up as required then drop it into acid.

If you know sombody who uses a VST sequencer im sure they could show you how to do it in 10 minutes although working it out for youself could be a headache. Also theres the problem of soundcard latency. You might need to buy a new soundcard otherwise the delay between hitting your drum pads and hearing the sound could be very slow.

chris