I hope you didn't buy those just so you could play or edit a Prores file. You can do that with Vegas and QT installed.

It never really says, at least that I can see, that it can render to a Prores file. Does it do that on a Windows PC?

[I]"It never really says, at least that I can see, that it can render to a Prores file. Does it do that on a Windows PC? "[/I]

Google it, it does let you encode to Prores but it isn't licensed and installing it can break decoding certain QT formats.

Bob.

Thanks Bob. I got the free version of CineC (I think that was the name) before it became paid. I have rendered to Prores using it and handed it off to Mac FCP users without complaint. Probably not licensed though. And Resolve sees it.

I have had great success with this:http://cliptoolz.com/convert.html

With this you can render to QT ProRes in Vegas with different options (422, 422 HD, 422 LT, 422 Proxy, 4444, in progresive, interlaced, 601 and 709 flavors) . I need this for one work, and works. Nothing more. The DNxHD settings are more detalled with the Avid codec. Seems this DNxHD part are for Mac guys. Sorry for my english.

Erni

Erni, good to hear your feedback about the ProRES settings offered within the codec dialogue. You need it at your workplace? because? Is it not also for the MAC guys you are working with?
2) You suggest that settings are more detailed in Avid? than what? the options offered for ProRes? or ?

I need to compress in ProRes for one client´s especifications.

Avid DNxHD codec have more variations (and best explicited) than the Miraizon's codec.

Erni

Erni, from your brief remarks I am thinking about different directions here.
The Miraizon codec suite includes ProRes and Avid. You indicate that the options inside the ProRes are very good while the Avid is not so good compared to what Avid themselves distributes in the AVID LE package.
This makes me reluctant to install Miraizon unless I know that I can subsequently add the AVID LE and make it separate which seems very unlikely.

So a better solution is to install ProRes from a different vendor and use AVID LE from Avid itself...then the best of both.

Does the Mirazon install program allow installing the ProRes and DNxHD codecs independently?

And that is a good question - and from what I have gathered thru a large amount of research is 'no' - it is installing a codec bundle.

I think I have learned what appears to be an inner manipulation strategy with this product.
1_Given that the Pro-Res included options are very good..
2_BUT The AVID options included are related in a real limited manner to the pro-licensed AVID that are above and beyond the AVID LE freebie.
3_The install order of AVID LE and Miraizon "AVID" does matter.

Since the hack has not been fully documented and not tested thoroughly, I cannot comment on its usefulness.

1 Install Miraizon codecs.

2 go to C:/program files (x86)/QuickTime/QTComponents, and change o delete the DNxHDCodec.qtx

3 Install Avid Codecs LE

Voilá: ProRes (Miraizon) and DNxHD (the Avid version) working together.

Erni

For the benefit of all - regarding Erni's suggested fix as he states above - calls into play just one scenario - but note-
1) This scenario assumes that you may want to go in just one direction - meaning it deletes the option of the pro AVID codecs just installed by Miraizon and substituting them with the AVID LE...
2) The real question is can you "undo" this scenario by taking some kind of steps to undo the registration and returning to a previous state of using the pro AVID settings.
3) The effort of the undo and going back and forth from what I have been able to gather has been attempted by some individuals but not proven to be reliable in creating a particular set of instructions. In other words the experimentation in this regard proves your results may vary.

What on earth is the matter Gentlemen? The is quite a good and fast Codec
for when the need arise to render to the Proress format on windows out of
Vegas or any other NLE.
What is the confusion here, and the many questions?
And where did you get that bit of information from Farss?
The Codec simply does one thing, and it does so effectively....
There is nothing complicated.

+1 Steve Rhoden

The way I interpret Erni and SteveRhoden's remarks is that they are satisfied with this third party solution to delivery of ProRES recorded on their PC and delivered to someone else.
Yet most industry remarks indicate this is non-starter because most professional markets stateside in USA do not accept anything but Apple ProRes (from the MAC) and even if they wanted to accept some other form ProRes it comes with gamma changes that is unacceptable.
Please respond to this criticism so that we may all benefit from your experiences.

For Prores delivery, has anyone tried using FFMBC.exe? I have done some conversions and the image looks good with no apparent gamma issues. Media Info says the codec is ProRes, but I have no Mac so I cannot see if the output file plays in final cut or other places. Vegas plays the output file just fine.

Here is command line using a short clip in XAVC format:
C:\Users\Aaron\Desktop>ffmbc.exe -i XAVC-1920x1080@29.97p.MXF -vcodec prores -acodec copy output.mov
FFmbc version 0.7-rc8
Copyright (c) 2008-2013 Baptiste Coudurier and the FFmpeg developers
Input #0, mxf, from 'XAVC-1920x1080@29.97p.MXF':
Metadata:
operational_pattern: Op1a
system_timecode: 00:00:00;00
timecode: 00:00:00;00
Duration: 00:00:11.11, bitrate: 115647 kb/s
Stream #0.0(und): Video: h264 (High 4:2:2 Intra), yuv422p10le, 1920x1080p [PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 29.97 fps
Stream #0.1(und): Audio: pcm_s16le, 48000 Hz, 1 channels, s16, 768 kb/s
Stream #0.2(und): Audio: pcm_s16le, 48000 Hz, 1 channels, s16, 768 kb/s
File 'output.mov' already exists. Overwrite ? [y/N] y
Output #0, mov, to 'output.mov':
Metadata:
encoder: FFmbc 0.7
Stream #0.0(und): Video: prores, yuv422p10le, 1920x1080p [PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 219980 kb/s, 29.97 fps
Stream #0.1(und): Audio: pcm_s16le, 48000 Hz, 1 channels, s16, stream copy
Stream mapping:
Stream #0.0 -> #0.0
Stream #0.1 -> #0.1
Press [q] to stop, [?] for help
frame= 333 [B] fps= 9[/b] q=1.0 Lsize= 333093kB time=00:00:00.00 bitrate= 0.0kbits/s
video:332045kB audio:1042kB global headers:0kB muxing overhead 0.001839%

9FPS might be a limiting factor on a long project. Make sure to add "-threads 8" or however many cores you have. 22FPS with all threads in use.

here are the latest release notes on FFMBC: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ffmbc-discuss/1L_I3iSxkzU

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/Forums/ShowMessage.asp?Forum=4&MessageID=889140
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=854412

I think I misspelled ffmbc when I did my search before. Thanks for the links. The bold text in the 1st link is exactly why people should never buy an apple product. It's pathetic. Is the prores license included with Quicktime Pro, I know you can convert formats with QT Pro.

I have already responded from my experience VideoITguy!
What else is there for me to expand upon?
And there is no major gamma shift issues out of Vegas, to make this Codec
unusable for professional output.

Steve Rhoden would be a person of few words. Now to move on to someone someplace that has a more definitive view.

Yes, few words. As a Professional Film maker and Moderator, i don't waste
precious time on trivial issues that goes nowhere and benefits no one... You have that gift!