GenArts Sapphire Edge for SVP - No more . . . .

Grazie wrote on 9/7/2014, 3:17 PM
After much consideration, GenArts has decided to discontinue Sapphire Edge in 2014

Grazie

Comments

Ros wrote on 9/7/2014, 9:40 PM
This is really sad, I was using some of their effects on a regular basis. Will have to gradually substitute these as they might not work in future versions. Seems Vegas 13 was not supported either but still working fine... That SE version 1.

Then again there is RedGiant Universe, which now supports Vegas. Will be testing soon and see what they have to offer.

Rob
wilvan wrote on 9/8/2014, 12:52 AM
Indeed a petty , bought it when it was released ( V1 ) and upgraded to V2.3 with a yearly subscription to the FX central looks . Really nice stuff and use it in intro clips quite a lot . Maybe it was too cheap and too less revenue . Petty but I will keep on using it as long as it keeps on working.

Sony  PXW-FS7K and 2 x Sony PXW-Z280  ( optimised as per Doug Jensen Master Classes and Alister Chapman advices ) Sony A7 IV
2 x HP Z840 workstations , each as follows : WIN10 pro x 64 , 2 x 10 core Xeon E5-2687W V3 at 3.5 GHz , 256 GB reg ECC RAM , HP nvidia quadro RTX A5000 ( 24GB ), 3 x samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0 x4  , 3 x SSD 1TB samsung 860 pro , 3 x 3TB WD3003FZEX.
SONY Vegas Pro 13 build 453  ( user since version 4 ) , SONY DVDarch , SONY SoundForge(s) , SONY Acid Pro(s) , SONY Cinescore ( each year buying upgrades for all of them since vegas pro 4 )
(MAGIX) Vegas pro 14 ( bought it as a kind of support but never installed it )
SONY CATALYST browse 
Adobe Photoshop  CC 2023
Adobe After Effects CC 2023 & Adobe Media Encoder CC 2023
Avid Media Composer 2022.xx ( started with the FREE Avid Media Composer First in 2019 )
Dedicated solely editing systems , fully optimized , windows 10 pro x 64 
( win10 pro operating systems , all most silly garbage and kid's stuff of microsoft entirely removed , never update win 10 unless required for editing purposes or ( maybe ) after a while when updates have proven to be reliable and no needless microsoft kid's stuff is added in the updates )

JohnnyRoy wrote on 9/8/2014, 5:32 AM
I'm glad I stuck with the Boris Continuum Complete plug-in. Boris seems dedicate to Vegas users and Red Giant has dropped Vegas support before so I don't trust them either.

Boris just announced BBC 9 for Vegas Pro and I'm doing more Boris TV episodes for them. I'm really loving their Grunge plug-in. Check out my latest tutorials using BCC Grunge:


Boris TV, Episode 203: "The Deadliest Catch" in BCC 9 for Sony Vegas Pro


Episode 205: BCC Pan and Zoom Goes 3D in Sony Vegas Pro


Episode 210: Adding Atmosphere with BCC 9 in Sony Vegas Pro

If you have any and requests for BCC9 tutorials please let me know. Post them here or on the Creative COW. I can be contacted via this forum by clicking on my name. I'm always open for new ideas.

~jr
Steve_Rhoden wrote on 9/8/2014, 7:34 AM
I'm glad i also stuck with Boris CC, In the early days Boris integration was very
problematic, but i somehow hanged on thru the years and now im glad i did. BCC 9
is now a rock solid investment and blessing. They are never gonna just get up
and drop support for Sony Vegas.
And also as John pointed out, Red Giant is another fickle line of plugins to
invest in, i truly love the new Magic Bullet Looks, as now it has features that i
have been badgering them to include for a long time. But as i said, they are a
really fickle bunch, they will just one day get up and drop support for Vegas without
even an announcement.... They have done so, so many times over the years, it
at times seems like a roller coaster ride with them, i tell you the truth. (Sigh)!
Wonder what else Genarts gonna drop...
JohnnyRoy wrote on 9/8/2014, 8:03 AM
> "Wonder what else Genarts gonna drop..."

...or more importantly, what business model are they going to adopt? They were playing with the "rental" model like Adobe and if they continue, pretty soon with paying rental for your NLE, and rental on all your plug-ins, you'll have to take out a mortgage just to afford to edit video. ;-)

~jr
Steve_Rhoden wrote on 9/8/2014, 8:27 AM
"you'll have to take out a mortgage just to afford to edit video"

Seems then we just have to charge our clients and customers a whole lot
more to compensate (Smile).
ushere wrote on 9/8/2014, 8:28 AM
in defense of genarts - they really are at the very other end of the plugin spectrum with their 'normal' range - sapphire and monsters, as are their usual clientele.

i think edge was their toe in the water moment at the shallow end of the pool, and obviously it wasn't warm enough.

Laurence wrote on 9/11/2014, 3:04 PM
>...or more importantly, what business model are they going to adopt? They were playing with the "rental" model like Adobe and if they continue, pretty soon with paying rental for your NLE, and rental on all your plug-ins, you'll have to take out a mortgage just to afford to edit video. ;-)

I bought it for a year. About the third time I went to use it I got a message that my subscription had expired. That was it for me and my relationship with GenArts.
JohnnyRoy wrote on 9/13/2014, 1:43 PM
> "About the third time I went to use it I got a message that my subscription had expired."

Yea, renting software just exacerbates this nonsensical "activation dance" because it checks more often. The whole thing is a bad idea.

~jr
wilvan wrote on 9/14/2014, 3:09 AM
Edge keeps on working since it had to be bought , only the extra released additional presets ( FX central ) were a yearly subscription but not required to have and keep edge running . (luckily )


Sony  PXW-FS7K and 2 x Sony PXW-Z280  ( optimised as per Doug Jensen Master Classes and Alister Chapman advices ) Sony A7 IV
2 x HP Z840 workstations , each as follows : WIN10 pro x 64 , 2 x 10 core Xeon E5-2687W V3 at 3.5 GHz , 256 GB reg ECC RAM , HP nvidia quadro RTX A5000 ( 24GB ), 3 x samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0 x4  , 3 x SSD 1TB samsung 860 pro , 3 x 3TB WD3003FZEX.
SONY Vegas Pro 13 build 453  ( user since version 4 ) , SONY DVDarch , SONY SoundForge(s) , SONY Acid Pro(s) , SONY Cinescore ( each year buying upgrades for all of them since vegas pro 4 )
(MAGIX) Vegas pro 14 ( bought it as a kind of support but never installed it )
SONY CATALYST browse 
Adobe Photoshop  CC 2023
Adobe After Effects CC 2023 & Adobe Media Encoder CC 2023
Avid Media Composer 2022.xx ( started with the FREE Avid Media Composer First in 2019 )
Dedicated solely editing systems , fully optimized , windows 10 pro x 64 
( win10 pro operating systems , all most silly garbage and kid's stuff of microsoft entirely removed , never update win 10 unless required for editing purposes or ( maybe ) after a while when updates have proven to be reliable and no needless microsoft kid's stuff is added in the updates )

Grazie wrote on 6/5/2016, 3:59 PM
And now, 18 months on, just read Particle Illusion Forum has gone from the Cow.

Grazie
winrockpost wrote on 6/5/2016, 7:30 PM
I am not a big fan of monthly subscriptions for software, I do have a couple and no real issues, but I do think it is just the way it going to be,,,like it or hate it, you want to play you have to pay.I certainly am not going to drop a software I use and hope the new one I learn is going to stay away from the monthly deal...just sayin.
FixitMad0 wrote on 6/5/2016, 8:59 PM
Grazie,

I just noticed that earlier today as well and have been asking why did Creative COW take down the particleillusion forum? Using Google, I see that it thinks the links are still good, but none of them are working. Using Creative COW's own Search page pulls up nothing as well.

I get very concerned when a forum is taken down, all the valuable information with it goes Poof! I really hope GenArts had nothing to do with it. In my opinion, GenArts bought Wondertouch to gut it and take the technology for their more expensive products.

A sad day for pi3 forum users.... Just hoping that Magix keeps the SCS pages going.