Noob question about rendering a wav loop from midi -ACID Product Family

Subject:Noob question about rendering a wav loop from midi Posted by: Seven Ram Horns Date:1/15/2014 7:30:59 PM Running Acid Studio 9 with a Graphite 49 controller keyboard. I've made a midi recording from my controller. It's saved in a single long track... I repeated the same chords over and over again, intending to go back and set my Loop Region around the best set, and just render that Loop Region out to a WAV file so I could loop it in a higher-level project. OK. Did that. But when I listen to the rendered WAV file, it's missing the first chord (which started at exactly the left side of the original Loop Region). When I move the start of those chords to the right just a little, then they're included in a rendered WAV file. But nothing that starts concurrently with the left side of the Loop Region is included in the file. Can anybody tell me if I'm doing something wrong?
Subject:RE: Noob question about rendering a wav loop from midi Reply by: TroyTheTech Date:1/16/2014 10:01:45 AM That's odd... I just finished a track of MIDI and I have a note at 1.1/Time00:00 and it rendered into WAV format... The only suggestions I can give are: i) close and reopen your project to see if it resets anything (try to reboot as well, just to clear all sound buffers/drivers) ii) try to remove the chord, save, reopen, and remake the chord iii) move everything over one bar and select it as a loop (so that the gap isn't there) and then Render Loop Only iv) try to remake your project Hopefully it won't take too much to get around it at least Good luck with it Message last edited on1/16/2014 10:05:54 AM byTroyTheTech.
Subject:RE: Noob question about rendering a wav loop from midi Reply by: Seven Ram Horns Date:1/16/2014 1:28:08 PM I'll give those steps a shot. Thanks for your help!
Subject:RE: Noob question about rendering a wav loop from midi Reply by: Seven Ram Horns Date:1/16/2014 7:11:20 PM None of that worked. I even made a completely new project, with simpler notes and no sustain pedal. It still omits the first note, concurent with the left edge of the original loop region. This is definitely something wrong with my process/settings/brain. I just can't see it. I've been using "Render As"... and selecting "Loop Region Only".
Subject:RE: Noob question about rendering a wav loop from midi Reply by: TroyTheTech Date:1/17/2014 10:25:32 AM That's so odd.. Have you tried moving the midi clip over one bar, instead of creating the first note in the clip over one bar? I mean the whole midi section, to possibly give the driver time to startup/buffer or something. What about trying a different VST or just regular old SoftSynth, does it do it with that? Can you render out to a high-bitrate in another format? I mean, not using WAV? What about playing back the file in a different music player (like VLC or Media Player Classic, or opening it in another audio editor like Audacity or Sony's Sound Forge, and see if the note is in the file that is rendered)? I'm running out of ideas! haha

Subject:Noob question about rendering a wav loop from midi

Date:1/15/2014 7:30:59 PM

Running Acid Studio 9 with a Graphite 49 controller keyboard.

I've made a midi recording from my controller. It's saved in a single long track... I repeated the same chords over and over again, intending to go back and set my Loop Region around the best set, and just render that Loop Region out to a WAV file so I could loop it in a higher-level project.

OK. Did that. But when I listen to the rendered WAV file, it's missing the first chord (which started at exactly the left side of the original Loop Region).

When I move the start of those chords to the right just a little, then they're included in a rendered WAV file. But nothing that starts concurrently with the left side of the Loop Region is included in the file.

Can anybody tell me if I'm doing something wrong?

Subject:RE: Noob question about rendering a wav loop from midi

Reply by: TroyTheTech

Date:1/16/2014 10:01:45 AM

That's odd... I just finished a track of MIDI and I have a note at 1.1/Time00:00 and it rendered into WAV format... The only suggestions I can give are:
i) close and reopen your project to see if it resets anything (try to reboot as well, just to clear all sound buffers/drivers)
ii) try to remove the chord, save, reopen, and remake the chord
iii) move everything over one bar and select it as a loop (so that the gap isn't there) and then Render Loop Only
iv) try to remake your project
Hopefully it won't take too much to get around it at least
Good luck with it

Message last edited on1/16/2014 10:05:54 AM byTroyTheTech.

Subject:RE: Noob question about rendering a wav loop from midi

Reply by: Seven Ram Horns

Date:1/16/2014 1:28:08 PM

I'll give those steps a shot. Thanks for your help!

Subject:RE: Noob question about rendering a wav loop from midi

Reply by: Seven Ram Horns

Date:1/16/2014 7:11:20 PM

None of that worked. I even made a completely new project, with simpler notes and no sustain pedal. It still omits the first note, concurent with the left edge of the original loop region. This is definitely something wrong with my process/settings/brain. I just can't see it.

I've been using "Render As"... and selecting "Loop Region Only".

Subject:RE: Noob question about rendering a wav loop from midi

Reply by: TroyTheTech

Date:1/17/2014 10:25:32 AM

That's so odd.. Have you tried moving the midi clip over one bar, instead of creating the first note in the clip over one bar? I mean the whole midi section, to possibly give the driver time to startup/buffer or something.
What about trying a different VST or just regular old SoftSynth, does it do it with that?
Can you render out to a high-bitrate in another format? I mean, not using WAV?
What about playing back the file in a different music player (like VLC or Media Player Classic, or opening it in another audio editor like Audacity or Sony's Sound Forge, and see if the note is in the file that is rendered)?
I'm running out of ideas! haha