Failure to Render

Jim H wrote on 11/10/2013, 5:33 PM
I'm working on a multi-part video where I'm creating each part in a separate veg file with the goal of creating one final master veg to assemble the parts into one video. I've got one 3.5 minute veg that simply will not render. Each video event has the same effects, Sony Brightness and Contrast, Color Corrector (Secondary), and BCC Glint. On top of that the video track has a BCC noise reduction effect.

At first it would just fail at 21% complete and Vegas would crash. I tried rendering the veg by nesting it in another veg bet it still failed at 21% but this time that status box still read 21% complete yet the "Open" "Open Containing Folder" and "close" buttons were highlighted like they would be had the render been 100% and successful. When I opened the resultant video it played fine up until what I guess is the 21% point which at that time all the cross fades turn to cuts and there are occasional black spots where the video gets skipped. After one of these strange renders Vegas interface gets all scrambled up with strange blocks of color.

I found an audio file at the exact spot where the video goes bad and that audio file was using some nonrealtime audio event effects. I rendered that audio file by itself and replaced it with a file with the effects already baked in and now the veg renders to 51% with the same problems - I get a video file that starts going bad at around 51%. But I don't see anything unusual about the events at that time.

I've tried fresh reboot before rendering with no other programs running. I set the Vegas application to highest priority as well. But no dice. I tried rendering to the MainConcept (mp4)Internet HD 720p and 1080p options. The original footage (MTS files) was taken on my Sony HXR-NX5U cameras. GPU rendering option is set to auto.

I have 12 gigs of memory but I still think there's a resource issue going on here. My next step would be to render the video in two parts to some full rez losseless format. But this is only a trick I've used for long videos of an hour or more. Not sure why I'm having to resort to these measures.

Any thoughts? The veg is here if that helps:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/80092785/06-LastDance-01.veg

What's the best render option for a lossless file that's not huge like an AVI would be?

Thanks for any tips you may have.

Comments

OldSmoke wrote on 11/10/2013, 6:02 PM
Jim

What driver are you using with your GTX580?
BCC plug-ins are very resource intensive which is why I hardly use them. Even on my "fairly" good and very stable system, I can't get any BCC plug-in to render in real time or have Best/Full preview.
I used noise reduction once and had to switch off GPU acceleration on my system, that as the one and only time I had to do that. Mine was a 35min project rather then a 3.5min one, needless to say it took very long to get it rendered.

Try GPU off.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Jim H wrote on 11/10/2013, 7:00 PM
I think I'm using the latest Nvidia drivers 327.23 installed on 8 NOV 13. A version 331.65 appears to have been released the day before I installed but not sure why I don't have that... Next attempt I will turn off GPU.

Right now I'm trying a new veg file where I've saved a new version with media to a separate folder... desperate times call for desperate measures.
OldSmoke wrote on 11/10/2013, 8:03 PM
Is there a reason why you are not using the most stable and fastest driver for the GTX5xx; like the 296.10? Are you on Win 8.1?

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Jim H wrote on 11/10/2013, 9:10 PM
I'm on Win7. As for drivers, I just try to keep them up to date. I was not aware there were preferred drivers for various Nvidia family GPUs. Tell me more of this older driver.

BTW, render with GPU off appears to be a failure... sitting at 64% and no action... ready to pull the plug and cancel this attempt.
OldSmoke wrote on 11/10/2013, 9:55 PM
There isn't much to tell. It has been beaten down to death in numerous threads in this forum; 296.10 is the fastest driver for a GTX5xx card under Win7. I render the SCS benchmark project in 33sec on a GTX570. However, depending on your 3rd party plug-ins, mileage my vary.
In this case, the latest is NOT the best.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Jim H wrote on 11/11/2013, 10:35 AM
Interesting... as a part time gamer, I always thought being current is better. How much faster is this older driver compared to recent ones? Just for speed, it may not be worth it for me as most of my renders are at night anyway. But stability is important. I'm guessing I can find this older driver on Nvidia website? Do you just install the entire thing or is there specific drivers that you're after?
OldSmoke wrote on 11/11/2013, 12:20 PM
It's not only render time, timeline preview is also much better with this driver. The performance improvement depends on your system but in my case is a good 25%. It is better to Google the driver as it is hard to find on Nvidia's website.
You must install the complete package and I suggest a clean removal of your current driver. Another issue effecting preview performance was and might still be one of MS Windows 7 updates to the WDDM interface. try not to install any of those: "nVidia - Graphics Adapter WDDM1.1, Graphics Adapter WDDM1.2, Graphics Adapter WDDM1.3, Other hardware - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570"

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)