OT: New Canon HD
Grazie
wrote on 4/3/2013, 11:55 AM
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MikeyDH
wrote on 4/3/2013, 1:32 PM
The Canon XA25 HD ENG camcorder and XA20 HD professional camcorder are scheduled to be available at the end of June 2013 for estimated retail prices of $3,199.00 and $2,699.00, respectively.
Arthur.S
wrote on 4/3/2013, 1:36 PM
These look like the cameras I've been waiting for. :-) Any idea what the difference between the 2 cams are?
TheRhino
wrote on 4/3/2013, 1:59 PM
From another website: "The Canon XA25 additionally features HD-SDI output offering the high capacity, uncompressed connectivity useful for many broadcast applications."
Former user
wrote on 4/3/2013, 2:19 PM
That's genuinely intriguing. Not much real info there, but if it captures with 4:2:2 I'd be thrilled.
MikeyDH
wrote on 4/3/2013, 3:10 PM
wwjd
wrote on 4/3/2013, 3:55 PM
After DSLR, I no longer trust Canon's definition of "HD". Does it mean actual countable 1080 pixels or a combined approximation maybe equaling 800 blended total, but CALLING it 1080 HD?
videoITguy
wrote on 4/3/2013, 3:55 PM
Not exactly thrilled with "broadcast" zoom-rocker switch -what the heck is that? Don't we want servo zoom on the lens? Not sure it goes farther than a simple run and gun camera> And beyond anything else what is the image from these delicate sensors -really can we say?
May have to stick the pricier XF300/305 series.
May have to stick the pricier XF300/305 series.
Tim L
wrote on 4/3/2013, 5:11 PM
Not to be disparaging here, but I hope everyone realizes these are little handy-cam sized camcorders, with a big XLR module attached. Follow the link in Grazie’s original post and scroll through the photos until you find the one that shows the accessories and the CD for a size comparison.
Still, they might be excellent cameras for what they are, but they have a single sensor only slightly bigger than 1/3", no neutral density filters, etc. Might be an excellent personal/vacation camera, or a good POV or crash cam, etc.
Still, they might be excellent cameras for what they are, but they have a single sensor only slightly bigger than 1/3", no neutral density filters, etc. Might be an excellent personal/vacation camera, or a good POV or crash cam, etc.
Andy_L
wrote on 4/3/2013, 6:45 PM
But it's got a new imaging system! :)
[r]Evolution
wrote on 4/4/2013, 2:46 PM
Not to be disparaging here, but I hope everyone realizes these are little handy-cam sized camcorders, with a big XLR module attached.
Because of advancements in camera technology, I don't really care about the camera size or the size of the chip(s). I've seen many handy-cam sized cameras produce pro quality imagery. If it's like most other devices, you can capture via HD SDI bypassing the camera's compression altogether.
Hopefully this will also make Panasonic, Sony, etc step up their game as well. Although I'm gonna wait and base my opinions on the actual footage, I think this is a step in the right direction.
Because of advancements in camera technology, I don't really care about the camera size or the size of the chip(s). I've seen many handy-cam sized cameras produce pro quality imagery. If it's like most other devices, you can capture via HD SDI bypassing the camera's compression altogether.
Hopefully this will also make Panasonic, Sony, etc step up their game as well. Although I'm gonna wait and base my opinions on the actual footage, I think this is a step in the right direction.
farss
wrote on 4/4/2013, 6:02 PM
All these small cameras are OK if you give them enough light.
I've compared real world footage from Sony's NX30 with my EX1. Same venue, same pathetic lighting. The EX1 footage is passable, the NX30, tragic.
On the other hand shot with those same two cameras in a different venue with more light. Quite hard to tell the difference, the EX1 handled highlights and the reflective bright colored streamers better however the NX30's gyro stabilized lens was a very useful feature. Even the projector in the NX30 came in handy when a number of people wanted to preview the footage.
One thing that does really bug me with these smaller / cheaper cameras is not being able to get full manual control. I don't know if the new Canon is any better than Sony's latest offering or not.
Bob.
I've compared real world footage from Sony's NX30 with my EX1. Same venue, same pathetic lighting. The EX1 footage is passable, the NX30, tragic.
On the other hand shot with those same two cameras in a different venue with more light. Quite hard to tell the difference, the EX1 handled highlights and the reflective bright colored streamers better however the NX30's gyro stabilized lens was a very useful feature. Even the projector in the NX30 came in handy when a number of people wanted to preview the footage.
One thing that does really bug me with these smaller / cheaper cameras is not being able to get full manual control. I don't know if the new Canon is any better than Sony's latest offering or not.
Bob.
Grazie
wrote on 4/5/2013, 3:36 AM
All these small cameras are OK if you give them enough light.
Yes.
Grazie
Yes.
Grazie
Dach
wrote on 4/5/2013, 7:49 AM
I was happy to see this announcement. I started off withe GL1 over 10 years ago, so these "small" cameras are impressive. Having skipped the XA10 and XF100 generation cameras I am looking forward to picking one up. Here are a couple thoughts...
* The VIXIA G30 is the same camera, minus the XLR handle. Much less expensive than the XA25.
* Seeing the introduction of a new, larger, single chip is interesting. The XA10's chip was well received.
* 20X optical zoom - glad to see such a feature come back.
Coming from the XHA1 and having it's image quality matched by the much less expensive M50 was a frustrating experience when comparing the investments.
In respect to the manual control. They have improved it a bit compared tot he XA10, but still falls short to the older cameras. That said the price of the XF300 has come down quite a bit.
- Chad
* The VIXIA G30 is the same camera, minus the XLR handle. Much less expensive than the XA25.
* Seeing the introduction of a new, larger, single chip is interesting. The XA10's chip was well received.
* 20X optical zoom - glad to see such a feature come back.
Coming from the XHA1 and having it's image quality matched by the much less expensive M50 was a frustrating experience when comparing the investments.
In respect to the manual control. They have improved it a bit compared tot he XA10, but still falls short to the older cameras. That said the price of the XF300 has come down quite a bit.
- Chad