Subject:Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Posted by: Kit

Date:1/31/2013 5:18:26 PM

I'm hoping people will list all the issues they have using Acid 7 with Windows 8 64 bit. I haven't started using Windows 8 yet . Will Acid work at all with Windows 8. What are the issues, thanks.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: Vocalpoint

Date:1/31/2013 6:00:53 PM

Well - Windows 8 is not supported by Sony anyway on AP7 so even if you did get it working - you would be on your own.

But my real question is: Why would you even bother with a non-starter like Windows 8? Can't imagine why you wouldn't just run with Win7 x64 knowing it's fully supported and works immediately .

It's not like AP7 needs Win 8 in any way.

VP

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: 519tbarr

Date:2/1/2013 8:19:17 AM

The Windows 8 argument is a bit ridiculous... in some aspects...
I have now been using Windows 8 for oh 3 weeks or so.
The metro/tile app screen and its layout take some getting used to... But on my end, I am already there. The thing is, in desktop mode - it's basically like being on Windows 7 as a platform. So why not have the best of both worlds. And if you are pro-lifer for the desktop mode - download Pokki or Classic Shell and boom you get your start menu back and you can set it up to boot in desktop mode. I personally run Pokki and I am enjoying Windows 8. No major hurdles...Except the get media feature that for some reason is not working on my desktop/AP7.
What's really going on is a serious case of bad media/war for public opinion for microsoft regarding Windows 8... And Microsoft has not done a good job of explaining that the desktop mode is still fully functional or providing a patch for the start menu. That should have been a no-brainer decision on the corporations end.
The reality check is it's 2013...Life moves on...OS's come and go...And Acid Pro unfortunately lives in a 2008 world where Vista was trying to be King. The interface has not changed in years. We as Windows users have nothing to complain about when you compare us to Mac users who's operating system seems to update every 1/4 to every half year.
SCS does advertise on their product pages Windows 8 as a system requirement. Along with all the other incarnations of Windows back to XP.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: Kit

Date:2/1/2013 12:14:34 PM

I've read that Windows 8 is faster and more efficient than Windows 7 - anything that loads up programs quicker sounds worth trying. My main concern with Windows 8 so far (apart from what programs won't run) is that it doesn't switch off completely. I also don't know how easy it is to disconnect from the Internet while in non Admin mode.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: Vocalpoint

Date:2/1/2013 1:04:58 PM

"What's really going on is a serious case of bad media/war for public opinion for microsoft regarding Windows 8... And Microsoft has not done a good job of explaining that the desktop mode is still fully functional or providing a patch for the start menu. That should have been a no-brainer decision on the corporations end.

Hey - each to their own. Windows 8 is completely pointless to me and I cannot see any benefit or reason for any user to trash a known good (and supported) Windows 7 install (especially for an old dog like AP7) in favor of it.

I could care less about media wars or what Microsoft tries to tell me (or sell me). Windows 8 is like anything else - it's "there" and it's new so people are brainwashed into thinking it's actually good. YMMV.

Me - I am into work and stability. Not messing around with having to learn a disaster like Win 8 plus having to troubleshoot it when things I need to work - do not.

VP

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: 519tbarr

Date:2/1/2013 1:11:30 PM

Hey VP

And that really for musicians is the main point.
We are here to write and record music and enjoy our expression of art.
The tech geek inside me enjoys the shiny new stuff... some parts have benefits and others do not.
AP7 - was a great program when it was release, but in all reality - the world is advancing - platforms are changing at a rapid pace - other than AP7 - all my DAW software is compatible with Win 8. I admit I was intrigued by the new Win 8 platform and so far - it's working for me.

As a musician it should never be our position to worry about what developers are doing - the code side of things - or if they are going to update their software and move on with the times. Our job is to record and make great music!

So yeah - on my end - it probably wouldn't hurt to stay away from the forums for a while and concentrate on what I enjoy doing which is recording and making great music - haha.

So far - my experience - Win 8 - problem free - except for Get Media.
Not a big deal - but having said that without an update on AP7 - im exporting as fast as I can to get my songs into other DAWs that have more horse power to handle what I need to do!

Having said that - there are some functionalities I still love about Acid - simplistic approach is one!

Peace!

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: AnthonyTower

Date:2/1/2013 1:26:04 PM

Windows 8 targets first and foremost tablets in it's GUI approach.

If your monitors are close to an arms length away, you're just inviting shoulder injuries using touch and gestures on your screens.
The mouse/cursor metaphor was thought out as a second place runner in Windows 8 and that's no secret.

Personally I'd rather see Sony ignore Windows 8 all together and port ACID Pro to OSX, although that's more likely wishful thinking on my part.

Cheers

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: 519tbarr

Date:2/1/2013 5:23:39 PM

I think its more than likely if Acid Pro survives that they will port it to OS X.
If Sound Forge Pro is any indication.
Still having my doubts about the Future of Acid altogether.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: 519tbarr

Date:2/1/2013 8:40:37 PM

Very interesting. Not sure if anyone noticed but Sound Forge Pro 10 PC received an update in November making it Windows 8 Compatible. It's in the release notes.
Nothing for Acid Pro.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: pwppch

Date:2/1/2013 9:23:29 PM

@"Windows 8 targets first and foremost tablets in it's GUI approach."

I don't agree with this. Yes, Windows 8 has the "metro" UI available to it, and it is touch and tablet friendly. However this is about WinRT more so than about Windows 8.

Under the hood, Windows 8 is a performance enanched Windows 7. Yes MS changes a lot, but the desktop envirnonment is better in many regardes. Yes, it has a new look, and the Start button is gone. Cosmetic aspects. You can even have desktop apps that are touch enabled. More importantly the pen interface is there.

From a developers perspective, a desktop app - like Vegas, ACID, or Forge - remains the same.

While WInRT has some limitations, it is still capable of host apps like iOS does. You could do what Apple did with Garage Band: release an IPad version that is compatible with the OSX version. Better, both versions can run on a PC, and the same PC version of the WinRT version will run on the tablet WinRT hardware. The developer will have to recompile/build for the tablet WinRT, but the code base is the same.

Win8 and WinRT are new. The promise I described is what is important. There are some limitations - just like the limitations between iOS apps and thier OSX counterpart. There is a great advantage to this.

Well, that's my opinion anyway.

And for those that will ask...

I am not implying or saying anything about whether we are doing this for any of our apps. I am just giving my perspective on Windows 8 and WinRT. Don't read anything into this.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: 519tbarr

Date:2/2/2013 11:11:23 AM

Peter
Nice to hear from you buddy.
Your shroud of ambiguity always stirs the pot up
Like I said earlier...I am enjoying Windows 8.
I think what we would all like to know is if Acid Pro is alive in a new version on the PC
Or if it is dead.
And no not Acid Music Studio!
Just putting it out there. I loved Acid Pro...and would love to see it come back kicking.
Also appreciate your perspective on the range of Win 8 devices/OS.

All the best.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: AnthonyTower

Date:2/2/2013 1:29:58 PM

First off, thank you Peter for stepping into this thread, one of many repetitive threads found here.....

But you mentioned something that caught my eye, the following:

"While WInRT has some limitations, it is still capable of host apps like iOS does. You could do what Apple did with Garage Band: release an IPad version that is compatible with the OSX version. Better, both versions can run on a PC, and the same PC version of the WinRT version will run on the tablet WinRT hardware. The developer will have to recompile/build for the tablet WinRT, but the code base is the same."

From what I understand (maybe I'm wrong) x86 apps and ARM powered WinRT apps do not share any code whatsoever and you can't just rebuild/recompile your x86 code to WinRT.

Hence one of the beefs against RT and reasons WinRT hasn't really caught on.

The game changer for Windows might be when Intel releases Hasell later this year, allowing more powerful tablets to surface (excuse the pun) and run x86 code and REAL software.

My gut feeling is that Microsoft may just have shot themselves in the foot by splintering the OS like this.

Even though Tim Cook has gone on record to deny the rumours, I for one wouldn't be surprised to see OSX and iOS merge in the not so distant future.
Especially with the advent of ARM server CPUs coming up soon.

It looks more and more likely that UNIX-like OSes will lay claim to the future of computing.

'Just my two cents.

Cheers

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: pwppch

Date:2/2/2013 3:08:04 PM

@"From what I understand (maybe I'm wrong) x86 apps and ARM powered WinRT apps do not share any code whatsoever and you can't just rebuild/recompile your x86 code to WinRT."

If you stick to the WinRT API, it is a recompile, though my guess is there will be some stuff that will need tweaks. The nice part is that it exposes an unmanaged API so no managed to unmanaged nonsense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Runtime

I have heard the rumors about iOS and OSX merge. I don't buy it. ARMs can't hold a candle to intel architectures or speed. ARM is about low power. Intel still owns the desktop, and it remains to be seen whether they can move into the low power tablet or phone space.

I don't believe MS has hurt themselves. They had to change. It is still early in the game for Windows 8. Legacy has always been MS's problem. There are far too many enterprises that rely on code written over a decade ago. The sheer logistics of migrating a large workforce to a new OS is not only complicated, but expensive.

OSX and iOS were not stellar out of the gate. OSX was leaps and bounds ahead of OS9 because it was a true multitasking kernel. Still it took a few upgrades to get to where it was indeed better. Apple only recently moved away from carbon to cocoa, and even now much of cocoa still relies on legacy components backends.

I have heard the threat of unix or Linux taking over for years. Still hasn't happened. Running on a server is not the same as a user friendly environment.

Windows still owns the desktop. Maybe not win8, but it isn't even close. While tablets may be where consumers buy into, the desktop is where tools still rule. I am impressed with what can be done on iOS and WinRT. I have no doubt that the same kind of media creation and editing tools will show up on WinRT.

I am platform agnostic now. Windows, OSX, iOS, he'll, even android. Doesn't matter. It is what the customer wants and where they want to do thier thing that matters. If you don't deliver on the platform the customers choose to use, then you are not doing the right things.

We strive to do the right things here. Just takes time. Forge Mac was nearly 3 years of hard work - for a non OSX house. We learned a lot, and are taking the next steps to move forward. Exciting things are in the works. The only thing I can say is that it is never too late to satisfy your customers. I am confident we are doing the right things.

We live in interesting times. Who could ask for more.

Peter

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: Kit

Date:2/2/2013 6:59:45 PM

So, Peter, what are the issues/problems with trying to run Acid 7 Pro on Windows 8 Pro64 bit. Thanks.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: pwppch

Date:2/2/2013 8:46:51 PM

I don't know of any, but I have not spent much time with ACID on Windows 8.

Is there a specific issue you are having?

Peter

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: cfxcorp

Date:2/2/2013 10:18:49 PM

Media Manager will not install correctly because of SQL. It tries to install SQL 2005 which is not compatible with Win8. I just downloaded and installed SQL Express 2012 and the ME 2.4 installation hangs after I let it start SQL 2005, then close it when the first error appears, the installation seems to want to continue, but it hangs, apparently trying to register itself in the SQL program.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: 519tbarr

Date:2/2/2013 10:26:05 PM

Peter

The get media feature which we have noted a few times in these forums seems to not recognize my authorized license of Acid Pro 7 - version e - 713 build.
I actually followed the procedures through and tried to fill the rest of my registration info out - it did the usual activation screen and when I tried to use the Get Media feature again - it asked for registration or full information of my registration.
I have heard it is working for some people running Windows 8. I upgraded from Windows 7 - home edition to Windows 8 Pro.

Just passing the info along.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: Chienworks

Date:2/3/2013 8:20:49 AM

"We live in interesting times."

Speaking as someone with a Chinese heritage, that's not always a good phrase to hear! ;)

I've always been a Windows fan for the desktop UI as they had the most elegant (not pretty, but from an efficiency standpoint) and useful paradigm. The Start menu from 95 to 98 to XP just kept getting better and more streamlined. Nothing else out there came anywhere close. This i the reason i've stuck with Windows for my UI while *ALL* of my cow-orkers are running various Linux shells.

Now, with the Win8 interface, that reason is losing a lot of ground. I'm sure there will be lots of tweaks to get it to look just like classic XP did, just as Win7 finally got them as well. But in the mean time the various new & improved Linux GUIs out there are going to get a lot of testing.

I suspect that my primary hardware next time around will be a Fedora box using VirtualBox to host XP and Win7 sessions.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: Frank Z

Date:2/3/2013 1:45:45 PM

Performance wise, Windows 8 is pretty good. Personally, I think if you're on WIndows 7 64-bit there is no "must have" feature of 8 that justifies upgrading. My "justification" was just that it's a $40 license that I can use to free up my Windows 7 license for another machine (I usually build my desktops so I never get pre-installed anything).

Getting rid of the Start Menu and adding "Metro" was just dumb in my opinion. It's maddening not to have the Start Menu which has been a fundamental aspect of Windows since Windows 95. I tried but I couldn't take it any more and ended up getting Classic Shell. Why Microsoft didn't make this an OPTION instead of bulldozing its users is beyond me.

That all said. Acid works under Windows 8. I think most of Acid's problem lies in its outdated quirky VST handling. They really should fix this...

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: Kit

Date:2/3/2013 6:15:00 PM

Thanks for confirming Acid 7 runs on Windows 8. I thought the $40 price was an upgrade so how does that free up the Windows 7 licence?

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: Geoff_Wood

Date:2/3/2013 9:47:44 PM

There is now a flood of Win8 Start Menu apps out there. Some even give the ultimate upgade - to a Classic Windows Start Menu - where if you know what you want, you can simply go there in a simple linear fashion !

geoff

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: deusx

Date:2/4/2013 7:45:54 AM

and how many of these apps are trojans/rootkits posing as start menus?

That's the problem when you have to rely on some third party to provide what should have been a simple option within the OS.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: 519tbarr

Date:2/4/2013 8:40:07 AM

Pokki and Classic Shell are both highly recommended by pcworld.com
I am enjoying Pokki.
I don't disagree that microsoft should address this immediately and come out with their own add on.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: Vocalpoint

Date:2/4/2013 9:45:53 AM

That's the problem when you have to rely on some third party to provide what should have been a simple option within the OS.

Well - I am still having a hard time understanding why anyone would bother wasting time, effort and patience by:

A) Using Windows 8 - period (unless forced by a new PC) - especially for a recording DAW (ACID or otherwise)

B) Then hacking around trying to restore a Start menu cobbled together by a bunch of 15 year olds selling shareware

The only true Start Menu comes from MS - and the best one available is in Windows 7.

VP

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: Kit

Date:2/4/2013 4:46:44 PM

Windows 8 is faster and more efficient than Windows 7. There are third party options that work for those who find some of the changes too radical. The upgrade was less than $40 to try.

Your crack about 15 year olds is a bit extreme. Classic Shell is free. I use it with Windows 7 though not for the Start menu which I hardly ever use ( I prefer setting up keyboard shortcuts with AutoHotKey). I found Windows 7 Explorer and move/copy dialogues too horrendous to work with. Classic Shell allows me to use Windows 7 the way I want too. I think customisation is one advantage Windows retains over the Mac.

I'll test out Windows 8 when I have a free weekend. I have a disc image to revert back to my customised Windows 7 if I find Windows 8 a disaster. If the upgrade had been more than $40 I wouldn't be bothering. I'll probably test out Reaper at the same time. I don't like Sony's wall of silence about Acid.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: 519tbarr

Date:2/4/2013 4:59:49 PM

Hey Kit
I agree on the $40 price for Win 8. Hence why I bought it as well.
I use Reaper pretty much as my main DAW now. My singer has Reaper on his system which is an intel i3 system. His setup was pretty much flawless. No problems at all with Reaper on our ends on two similar but very different quad core systems.
If I come across anything that makes me go ouch... I will let you know. But we've been on Win 8 64x with older Quad towers now for almost a month and I can report - All is well - minus the get media feature that I am having issues with - but apparently other's are not having the same issue. I am running an old Intel Core Duo Quad...

All the best.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: Vocalpoint

Date:2/5/2013 5:57:03 PM

Windows 8 is faster and more efficient than Windows 7.

Without any real data to back up the supposed "speed" and "efficiency" comments - I am not sure where you are going with this. Faster than what? More efficient than what?

Or are you assuming it's faster becuase you read it somewhere. Or do you mean 0.004ms faster in opening a program or 0.013ms faster in starting a web browser - does that kinda of microscopic improvement really matter for a DAW??

And in terms of efficiency - sorry but I will call anyone out on Windows 8 any day. The ultra annoying "back and forth" between Metro and Desktop all day long - alone - would drive me to stick a pencil in my eye.

As soon as MS saw fit to force a user to leave the Desktop for every little thing - the very concept of efficiency was completely dead.

In terms of true efficiency - within the context of running DAW software and not ever being intrusive - Windows 7 easily will run circles around any Windows 8 install any day.

However - it looks as you have your mind already made up so it matter not what anyone says - enjoy Win 8 if that's your thing.

VP

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: 519tbarr

Date:2/5/2013 6:39:01 PM

Hey VP
Where's Clint Eastwood when you need the intermission at half time lol or the chair for that matter.
To each user their own... Here... Here...
We can all argue about the benefits, the lack of benefits of Windows 8
But none the less Windows 8 is here.
Windows 8 is not perfect. The metro thing has people in a buzz... I get that.
I am no defender of any major corporation. At the end of the day they care little for you or me.
Windows 8 is a step in a new direction. The desktop in Windows 8 minus the start.menu is pretty much like Windows 7.
Microsoft had to do something to try to compete with the connectivity of OSX and ios
This is their first attempt. Windows RT and surface tabs are headed towards failure land prodominately hardware based and due to ridiculous.cost of the hardware and lack of storage capacity.
I dont believe they cracked 750k in units on the surface tablet.
Anyways... Im sending out peace and love vibrations.
We all want a new Acid Pro...thats the main reason we are here.
In the meantime...let us all write great music and rock on or bang a gong.
Peace.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: Vocalpoint

Date:2/5/2013 8:23:33 PM

But none the less Windows 8 is here.

Hey - totally agree. But just because something is "here" does not make it better than the prior version.

And trust me - I really, really wanted to like and use Windows 8 - but I am sorry - regardless of direction or buzz or anything that MS tries to do to ward off the Apples and Androids of the world - this ain't going to do it.

My take - if Windows 8 was really worth the trouble and was really that good - Windows 7 would be a distant memory and would not be the worlds most popular OS at this minute. Heck even I would be on Windows 8 if it was that good.

Peace and love vibes over here too :)

VP

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: Kit

Date:2/6/2013 5:50:16 PM

The notion that Windows 8 is faster and more efficient is based upon reviews and user comments. Whether it will be better for me remains to be seen - I haven't tested it yet. The switching back and forth you allude to can be easily avoided by changing some out of the box settings and using a third party app such as Classic Shell, which I am already using.

This conversation is going in circles - you seem determined to dislike Windows 8 so let's leave it at that. My mind was open enough that I was willing to buy the $40 dollar upgrade. Whether I will switch remains to be seen but I gave myself that option. Cheers.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: pwppch

Date:2/6/2013 8:37:46 PM

@VocalPoint

Here is some hard data on Windows 8:

http://blog.cakewalk.com/windows-8-a-benchmark-for-music-production-applications/

Peter

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: Vocalpoint

Date:2/6/2013 9:32:31 PM

@Peter.

Thanks but this was posted everywhere over a year ago...and represents "old" hard data only if Cakewalk stuff is your thing.

Again - if someone has some real need to go Windows 8 - that's their call.

For me - stats or no stats - I still fail to see any logical reason whatsoever to disrupt a rock solid Windows 7 install for this.

VP

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: Vocalpoint

Date:2/6/2013 9:46:58 PM

You seem determined to dislike Windows 8 so let's leave it at that.

Please don't confuse "dislike" with "not worth the effort". It's not possible for me to "dislike" Windows 8 since I have never installed it.

I am simply stating my own opinion that Win 8 brings nothing of importance to the audio recording landscape and it gets even more strange when I start thinking about this from a personal level - that is my own personal colleagues in the local (and not so local) audio and post industries.

I am being 100% honest when I tell you that not a single person that I work with on a regular basis or that I can name off the top of my head right now has Windows 8 running in a professional or semi-professional environment.

I also state truthfully that ALL of these guys and gals are heavy tech savvy and know exactly what works and what doesn't. You would think that by now - some 4 or 5 months after release - I should be able to find one or two close contacts that have taken the plunge - but I cannot.

So to have every single one of these people avoid Windows 8 - is - just a coincidence? One has to assume that most (if not all) of these pros must be aware that Win 8 is there and available...yet no one will go for it....?

Good luck with whatever you choose. Making music and have fun is the true end game regardless of what OS you use :)

VP

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: Kit

Date:2/6/2013 10:03:58 PM

Thanks for the clarification - I can definitely agree with your last statement :)

Kit

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: pwppch

Date:2/7/2013 4:17:47 PM

@Vocalpoint

So it would have to be "new" hard data from somebody other than Cakewalk.

Got it.


Peter

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: Vocalpoint

Date:2/7/2013 4:57:32 PM

@Peter

Actually - it should to be new "hard" RELEVANT - data from you (and Sony) specifically - in this case - to have any impact whatsoever to me.

Or are you implying that just because Cakewalk decides to crawl out of their hole once a year and publish a technical paper - we should all suddenly take that at face value, drop whatever it is we are using and flock to Windows 8?

Vendor testing is fine but even tho they found some improvements here and there only means that it was faster on "their" test bench - that does not equate to it universally "faster" for everyone - nor should anyone read anything into their results as a definitive reason to upgrade.

VP

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: pwppch

Date:2/7/2013 6:41:08 PM

Noel@cakewalk is one of the smartest guys I know. His research is relevant to DAWs and NLEs. Is it a reason to upgrade? Don't know.

It makes no difference in the end to me whether you use Win7 or Win8. I was just responding to your comment about no proof or facts that Win8 performs better than Win7. There are. Is it conclusive? Can't say. Real world user machines are so different that it is impossible to prove it one way or the other.

My experience is that Windows 8 out performs Windows 7. I don't like the metro thing either, but like anything you get use to a new workflow eventually.

I am not trying to convince you or anybody. Just presenting relevant research done by some one I know and trust.

I actually like OSX better than all of this Windows stuff. Just a preference having spent a long time developing Forge for the Mac.

I am getting a new fire breathing win8 box. I will do some tests and let you know what I find...not to convince, but to see first hand on my test bench what I discover.
Peter

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: Vocalpoint

Date:2/8/2013 8:57:21 AM

I am not trying to convince you or anybody. Just presenting relevant research done by some one I know and trust.

Peter,

As always I value your opinion and your expertise - as you are much closer than most to this sort of thing.

However - I am not trying to convince anyone either to go one way or the other. Just offering a working insight from an ultra practical "Productive" DAW angle.

I continue to be fascinated how so many users instantly forget how "stability" and "familiar workflow" can really ramp up their overall "creation" process - and how easily they can toss these aside when the "next big thing" shows up. Must be to satisfy some "Gotta have the latest" urge.

Good luck with the new "fire breather" :) And do let us know what you find.

VP

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: Geoff_Wood

Date:2/9/2013 5:29:39 PM

Oh dear Peter, not joining the iCult, I hope ;-)

geoff

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: pwppch

Date:2/10/2013 12:05:26 AM

@Geoff

I drank the iKool-Aid...

Peter

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: kitekrazee

Date:2/13/2013 2:58:03 PM

Meanwhile Live users are getting better performance out of their MB Pros running Live/Windows 7/Bootcamp.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: AnthonyTower

Date:2/14/2013 9:59:18 AM

kitedrazee writes:
"Meanwhile Live users are getting better performance out of their MB Pros running Live/Windows 7/Bootcamp."

Huh?
That doesn't make any sense.

If you bought Ableton Live than you automatically have access to both OSX and Windows version of Live, so why would you be running the Windows version of Live on a mac through Bootcamp, with all the inherited problems and limitations that come with that.

I run 'brand spanking new' ACID Pro 7 on a PC and Ableton Suite 8 on a Mac, which is still by the way a 32 bit program, the 64bit version and V9 are still in beta.
Note for the curious, Ableton have supported the PowerPC up to and including V8, so I run it on my trusty old dual G5 tower.

Cheers

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: 519tbarr

Date:2/14/2013 7:07:14 PM

Well here to report my experience with my brand new Asus 8 core tower!
Running an AMD FX-8120 with 8 gigs of ram.
It came loaded with Win 7. I installed Windows 8 - as that is what I am using now full time for the OS and it's been working quite lovely in desktop mode with the Pokki download for the start menu replacement.
So far - 0 problems to report. I decided to stop using my 2496 M-Audio card that I've been using for years. I ordered a new Focusrite 18i20 that has yet to arrive. So in the meantime I am using a little Focusrite Saffire 2i2. So far no glitches.
Acid Pro, Sound Forge all seem to be working well. The issue I was having on my old Quad with the get media feature not working is working correctly on this tower.
And Acid seems to be breezing through my insanity of track counts on some of the old music I have been rendering out to Reaper.
So... seeing as nothing is new in SCS land on the AP7 front - all's well that ends well.
If I find any issues using my new 8 core I will report them.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: Kit

Date:2/15/2013 5:32:23 PM

Thanks for the report, that's encouraging. I have still to try out Windows 8.

Kit

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: tripod looper

Date:2/16/2013 4:05:15 PM

I was all set to upgrade to ACID Pro 7, but the application failed to operate on my Windows 8 netbook. Disappointed, I settled for ACID Music Studio 9 for the time being. While I like ACID, the lack of any proper attention to ACID Pro in far too long has me thinking about jumping ship.

That said, Music Studio works quite well on both my old, non-touch-enabled netbook as it does on my Surface Pro. Incidentally, the netbook definitely runs better with Windows 8 than it did with Windows 7.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 issues with Windows 8

Reply by: Kit

Date:2/17/2013 6:08:25 PM

Was there any indication what the problem was - error messages etc. Thanks.