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Subject:newbe help
Posted by: Venomus
Date:11/30/2001 11:11:10 AM
Help ive got a song im working on that seems to have a corupt file full loop 14 the cimbles are distorting when i have this file open. im useing acid techno ( not the pro dont have the washingtons for pro yet) when i first started the song it wasent distorting ( full loop 14 ) and it only seems to be this one track. ive used this track in other songs with out it distorting ( even now if i open a difrent song it sounds ok ) i have even removed the track and reinstalled it but its still distorting. in the song im haveing trouble with i have a total of 20 tracks in it so far. is it the number of tracks? my other songs dont have as many tracks in them ( they didnt distort with this loop) im useing a gateway p3 650mhz sound blaster pci and im useing the acid techno 2.????. one of the first ones out please help this is a verry cool song and i cant stand the thought of giveing up on it. hopefuly some one will have run in to this before and know what i should do. thanks in advance Venom |
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Subject:RE: newbe help
Reply by: nlamartina
Date:11/30/2001 11:31:17 AM
Venom, I have two questions for you: 1. What's the exact version number of Acid you're using? (2.0a, 2.0b, etc) 2. Are you loading/playing the loop from a sample CD or from your hard disk? Get back to us with that info and we'll continue this discussion. Regards, Nick LaMartina |
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Subject:RE: newbe help
Reply by: Venomus
Date:11/30/2001 11:38:57 AM
im useing 2.0d i have 2 cd roms so both cd's are in the drives ( i dont think i really need one of them in there) im playing from memory ( i changed the settings from 4mb -> 20 mb or larger to play from the hard drive ) the song is 5.6 mb now so it should be playing from memory 128 mb installed thank you again for the help |
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Subject:RE: newbe help
Reply by: Venomus
Date:11/30/2001 12:10:22 PM
also if need be i can send the song to some one ( im on a cable modem so big file uploading isent a problem for me (5.6 mb curently) so they could take a look and see if they can figure it out its all orignal and im not gona copywrite it. i make this music for my own use. i dont mind if others have it but its not complete yet im just verry motivated to fix this song and finish it thank you all for any help you can give Venom |
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Subject:RE: newbe help
Reply by: Chienworks
Date:11/30/2001 12:42:29 PM
One thing i saw you mention was that you have 20 tracks in this song and you haven't used that many before. Keep in mind that as you add more tracks, the total volume level of your song will increase. Loops are often recorded at nearly full volume, and if you add more than a few that play simultaneously they can create an output level greater than 0dB. Anthing above this 0dB level will be distortion. Have you reduced the volume of all your individual tracks? Watch the output level meters while your song plays. If you see them up in the red zone a lot then you're probably hitting some distortion. Reduce all of the track levels the same amount (maybe 6dB to start with) and see if that helps. You will probably have to reduce the track volume levels by about 2dB for every simultaneous track playing. If you have 20 tracks, but never have more than 6 going at once, then you may have to try a reduction of 12dB. This of course varies greatly depending on how loud each loop is recorded, and what the loop contains; but it could be a good starting point. |
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Subject:RE: newbe help
Reply by: Venomus
Date:11/30/2001 12:59:48 PM
with the song loaded i can play this track (full loop 14) by it self and its still distorted on the high end ( cimbles crashes ect ect ) -db levals are all good when the full track is played. ( not spiking in the red ) and its only in this song other songs with this track the high end is clear. also i dont think its a hard ware problem ( sound card ect ect ) cause win amp, and other sorces of sound are clear every where. thank you for the heads up tho Venom |
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Subject:RE: newbe help
Reply by: nlamartina
Date:12/5/2001 1:12:51 AM
Venom, I already knew you were playing the tracks from memory (as that's how Acid works). I should have been more clear. Have you loaded the tracks from a CD-ROM or hard disk? The reason I ask is that users experience static noise when a particularly long or complex loop is loaded off a CD-ROM. Try copying the naughty files to your hard disk and see if that fixes it. Hope this helps, Nick LaMartina |
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Subject:RE: newbe help
Reply by: Venomus
Date:12/6/2001 4:17:15 PM
yes all my sound files are loaded to the hard drive. and its still distorting. only this one track and only the high parts (cymbals,crashes ect) im really bummed cause theres no sense in going any furthere with this song if it's gona sound like this the thing thats got me is it's only this one song other songs useing this track are not distorting ( even new one's ) thank you again for the help with this problem Venom |
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Subject:RE: newbe help
Reply by: firstfry
Date:12/6/2001 5:16:25 PM
hello..have you tried playing the wav file from another program..like windows real player...if it distorts in media player...it is permanently on the wav |
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Subject:RE: newbe help
Reply by: Venomus
Date:12/7/2001 9:44:32 AM
yes i have,i recorded it and played it on winamp ( just to see if it was acid) and its still distorting also i played it on meida player and still the same thanks again Venom |
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Subject:RE: newbe help
Reply by: firstfry
Date:12/7/2001 12:39:50 PM
ya..its unfortunate when you save a file and you leave one thing out like output level and it gets saved at to high of a peak...even though you drop the level of the file it was still saved preveously incorrectly...cant go back and fix that...part of the music game,just like when i hear people trying to remove vocals from a stereo track.....its not possible,it sounds like you saved the file previously with the output to high |