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Marco. wrote on 11/17/2012, 4:10 AM
On the FasstApp.com homepage you can view a short demo video of many of the FasstApps.
vkmast wrote on 11/17/2012, 4:31 AM
The same on this site, if you dig deep into the Partner Product pages.
A more direct link is
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegasapps
Grazie wrote on 11/17/2012, 4:47 AM
Just working through them. Seen the "Audit Assistant". Valuable!!

G
JohnnyRoy wrote on 11/17/2012, 6:36 AM
> "Because a short description does nothing for me. If you show me a picture or a video for each one and it makes me say I HAVE TO HAVE THIS I will buy it. 8 bucks is a great price, but come on SONY do not undercut yourself. Show me why I need each one of those apps and I'll buy them."

I'm sorry that you didn't find our product pages compelling and I agree that selling plug-ins without a trial requires that you tell customers "why" they need them regardless of how good the price it. Can you help us make this better?

On the TitleStrip 1 product page we have this description:

TitleStrips are the fastest and easiest way to apply graphics and text to your Vegas Pro and Movie Studio Platinum projects. Easily add Lower Thirds, Graphical Overlays, or Full Screen Overlays to any video project. You can also add and position text anywhere in the frame. Each TitleStrip includes a collection of graphics you can start using right away! Collect all TitleStrip volumes for a FASST-access library of high-end lower thirds and graphics.TitleStrip Variety Pack 1 includes over a dozen lower thirds with a variety of designs and colors. Many of these graphics include motion. Check out the content preview images to see each TitleStrip in action.

So from this you know that they are over a dozen lower third motion graphics and overlay graphics with titles. Is there something more of an explanation that we should provide?

There is also this screen shot on that page:



So now you know what the user interface looks like.

These are the actual Lower Thirds in the pack:



and there is a short demo video:

http://dspcdn.sonycreativesoftware.com/videos/partners/fasstapps/TitleStrip_Video.mp4

We are working on free full tutorials for each so that you can learn to use them even before you buy them.

I'm concerned that you signed up for this forum today specifically to lodge this complaint so I take this very seriously and would appreciate your help. What more would you like to see that would help you buy these plug-ins?

Thanks for your consideration,

~jr

John Rofrano
Sundance Media Group / VASST
www.vasst.com
www.fasstapps.com
Grazie wrote on 11/17/2012, 7:43 AM
I'm using the TitleStrip to trial to my most recent client. You'll probably want to show your clients variations on a theme and having everything happen in the Event, is a very real creative plus. No more futzing with multiple tracks!

VASST are truly engaging with the OFX feature/functionality. Really excited to see what else is going to spring from this Stable!

Grazie

Grazie wrote on 11/17/2012, 7:59 AM
All of the TitleStamp Events can be updated from within the TitleStamp GUI to get allowing you to its own Lower-Third Tracks.

Be warned! It IS addictive . . . . .

Grazie



[r]Evolution wrote on 11/18/2012, 10:45 AM
Wow... The help is not needed with the description but with the graphics.
Those sure are some UGLY Lower Thirds in that pack!
Jim H wrote on 11/18/2012, 12:11 PM
I have UltimateS so my question is how does this app differ from the lower thirds I can produce with US?
_Lenny_ wrote on 11/18/2012, 12:46 PM
John,

I couldn't watch that video. The presenter jumps about all over the screen in a very annoying manner that, in my very humble opinion makes the promo seem amateurish. I guess I'm not up to speed with the latest editing fads! I didn't get beyond 30 seconds...

Nevertheless, I did download the two free apps, and I'm sure I'll be able to make use of them. So thank you for making them available to us.

One suggestion - an undo button. Yes, crtl+z works, but having a dedicated undo button would be more intuitive.

Thank you

Lenny
JohnnyRoy wrote on 11/18/2012, 12:55 PM
> "I have UltimateS so my question is how does this app differ from the lower thirds I can produce with US?"

Good question Jim. The first 4 TitleStrips are the same content as GraphPaks 1 & 2 in Ultimate S Pro so from a content standpoint you already have these lower thirds.

What TitleStrips add is the ability to create the Text for the Lower Third along with the graphic. This makes use of the OFX capability which wasn't introduced until Vegas Pro 11.0 so these only work with Vegas Pro 11.0 & 12.0 and Movie Studio 12.0 while the GrafPaks that plug into Ultimate S Pro work with earlier versions but don't include placement of text.

The TitleStrips are also delivered differently than the GrafPaks. Instead of them being nested projects, they are delivered as PNG sequences. This means two things for you: (1) They playback very smoothly so there should be no lag like some of the GrafPaks have, and (2) They are frame rate independent so instead of Vegas having to convert the 29.97 fps GrafPaks to 25.0 fps or 23.796 fps, we simply make a 29.97 fps, 25.0 fps or 23.796 fps image sequence to begin with. This yields better quality and eliminates ghosting that may occur with frame rate changes.

There will be a lot more TitleStrips to come so I would get the free one and see if you like the concept. Then you'll know if you want to buy more when the next set becomes available.

~jr

John Rofrano
Sundance Media Group / VASST
www.vasst.com
www.fasstapps.com
JohnnyRoy wrote on 11/18/2012, 1:05 PM
> "I couldn't watch that video. The presenter jumps about all over the screen in a very annoying manner that, in my very humble opinion makes the promo seem amateurish. I guess I'm not up to speed with the latest editing fads! I didn't get beyond 30 seconds..."

Sorry you don't like the intro. Skip to 00:00:50;00 and watch it from there. That's where the brief demo starts.

> "Nevertheless, I did download the two free apps, and I'm sure I'll be able to make use of them. So thank you for making them available to us."

Thanks for downloading them and let us know what you think.

> "One suggestion - an undo button. Yes, crtl+z works, but having a dedicated undo button would be more intuitive."

Interesting. None of the other docked Windows in Vegas have their own undo button and none of the video or audio plug-ins have their own undo button. The same is true for FasstApps. We are integrated into the Vegas undo and make calls to Vegas so that it can undo anything we have done. I'm not even sure we have access to the undo stack to manipulate it ourselves. I don't think it would be wise to maintain our own undo because you could do things after us in Vegas and then press our undo and have disastrous results. It's probably best to have only one undo method. Think of it this way, FasstApps are no different than Pan/Crop or Track Motion; you undo with the Vegas undo button regardless of if you have gone on to do other things in between.

~jr

John Rofrano
Sundance Media Group / VASST
www.vasst.com
www.fasstapps.com
dalemccl wrote on 11/18/2012, 1:54 PM
Two questions: (EDIT: please disregard 1st question.)

1. I can't find the two free faast apps referenced above. I found two free holiday lower-thirds on the Vaast website in the Free Resources section, but not the free faast apps. I also looked on the SCS site and the faastapps.com site. Can you tell me where to find them? EDIT: ***Disregard this question; I just saw Byron K's post that linked to the free faast apps**

2. Based on the slider in the picture of the interface for Time Warp, it looks like it gets around the Vegas Pro limit of 4x from cntl-dragging the clip and 3x from a velocity envelope (for a total of 12x). The slider has 100x and even up to 10,000x. Am I looking at it right? I thought to get those kind of slow or fast motion in Vegas, you had to render 12x events then apply another 12x to the rendered event, etc. Does Time Warp get around this limitation somehow?
Byron K wrote on 11/18/2012, 2:11 PM
Posted by: _Lenny_ Date: 11/18/2012 8:46:17 AM
I couldn't watch that video. The presenter jumps about all over the screen in a very annoying manner that, in my very humble opinion makes the promo seem amateurish. I guess I'm not up to speed with the latest editing fads! I didn't get beyond 30 seconds...

I'm not the only one who thought the popping presenter was annoying. (;

This thread has more info from John about the faast apps and future plans.
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=831131

I personally have hesitated on the pulling the trigger on some of these for the reason that the demo videos are so high-level and don't actually go into detail how the app works. I've been bitten already by pulling the trigger one app but didn't do the one thing I expected it to do.

A here's an example: The Time Warp app. It doesn't explain exactly what is the maximum times you can compress or expand a video.

The "New Speed" slider doesn't make sense to me. According to the video, the marker shows 0, 1x, 10x, 100x, then drops back to 1.0x, 10.0x? Does the slider go up 100x then drops to slow-mo -1.0x and 10.00x?
JohnnyRoy wrote on 11/18/2012, 3:27 PM
> "Am I looking at it right? I thought to get those kind of slow or fast motion in Vegas, you had to render 12x events then apply another 12x to the rendered event, etc. Does Time Warp get around this limitation somehow?"

Yes, for anything beyond the normal 4x playback rate TimeWarp takes timeline PNG snapshots at the appropriate interval and creates an image sequence which is adds as a Take on the original event after adjusting it's length accordingly.

~jr

John Rofrano
Sundance Media Group / VASST
www.vasst.com
www.fasstapps.com
JohnnyRoy wrote on 11/18/2012, 3:34 PM
> "The "New Speed" slider doesn't make sense to me. According to the video, the marker shows 0, 1x, 10x, 100x, then drops back to 1.0x, 10.0x? Does the slider go up 100x then drops to slow-mo -1.0x and 10.00x?"

It looks like you may have misinterpreted the speed slider due to cultural differences. It uses the US comma separator to go from 0x, 1x, 10x, 100x, 1,000x, 10,000x meaning, zero, one, ten, one hundred, one thousand and ten thousand. In Europe the comma is used like a decimal here in the US. This is probably where the confusion lies. I'll be sure to change the interface in the next update.



~jr

John Rofrano
Sundance Media Group / VASST
www.vasst.com
www.fasstapps.com
Spectralis wrote on 11/18/2012, 6:10 PM
I have Ultimate S Pro. Do any of these apps add anything that USP can't do?

Also, is Ultimate S Pro going to be updated in the near future to include these apps? I don't want to buy any of them and then find that an USP upgrade includes them all so I end up paying for them twice.
Ron Windeyer wrote on 11/18/2012, 7:32 PM
A comment from an "amateur".

I was so proud of myself recently - after reading this forum I worked out what lower thirds were, and actually how do do them. Then this FASST app comes along, and I can do it automatically! WOW!

IMHO the interface is not difficult at all; you can differentiate between text and effect and add animations etc to either; placement etc is easy, and it is a great little addition. It would have taken me about 10 minutes to master.

Not to mention that you can adjust opacity etc with the normal Vegas interface.

Full marks guys - I may be tempted to get others as my experience grows!
JohnnyRoy wrote on 11/19/2012, 6:15 AM
> "I have Ultimate S Pro. Do any of these apps add anything that USP can't do?"

Yes, Ultimate S Pro doesn't do StutterFrame. That is a scaled down version of Mayhem plug-in. While US Pro can accomplish something similar to TimeWarp by using Editing Tools | Capture Images, you would still have to import them as an image sequence and calculate the new length and replace the current media. Also to some extent US Pro's Lower Thirds tool can do some of what the TitleStrips do, but US Pro doesn't have the ability to add and edit text which makes the process much simpler. All of the other FasstApps so far, can be found in Ultimate S Pro but new ones are on the way that will not be. What we have done is make the functionality in Ultimate S Pro more "consumable" so that customers can just buy the functions they need. Ultimate S Pro customers already have many of these initial functions but that will change as more are released.

> "Also, is Ultimate S Pro going to be updated in the near future to include these apps? I don't want to buy any of them and then find that an USP upgrade includes them all so I end up paying for them twice."

There are no plans to add the new FasstApps functionality to Ultimate S Pro, and the statement you just made is exactly why. We don't want customers to have to wait until the next big release of a product to get more functionality. We want to be able to release new FasstApps quickly. So, for example, if you have an idea or need for a new function, or a new camera comes out with a new workflow that we can make easier, we can develop a new FasstApp to address it and release it and make it available within weeks rather than save it until we have enough new functions to warrant a new release of s larger product like Ultimate S Pro months later. It's a win-win situation for both us and our customers so don't be afraid to buy the new functions you need now.

~jr

John Rofrano
Sundance Media Group / VASST
www.vasst.com
www.fasstapps.com
Former user wrote on 11/19/2012, 7:44 AM
JohnnyRoy,

sorry to change the subject, but is there any more development for Caption Assistant planned?

Dave T2
JohnnyRoy wrote on 11/19/2012, 9:08 AM
> "sorry to change the subject, but is there any more development for Caption Assistant planned?"

Yea Dave, if I remember correctly you had asked for some new features. Shoot me an email and let's discuss. I'd love to add some new stuff to it.

~jr

John Rofrano
Sundance Media Group / VASST
www.vasst.com
www.fasstapps.com
[r]Evolution wrote on 11/19/2012, 2:34 PM
Douglas Spotted Eagle is one of very few brothas that makes a mullet look cool. You talking about a wealth of knowledge... DSE has it.

- glad to say he looks like he's doing well after his scary skydiving accident a while ago.

back on topic:
As someone stated before; Fasst Apps are a cool idea for those needing a single/solo feature of Ultimate S.
_Lenny_ wrote on 11/19/2012, 2:43 PM
None of the other docked Windows in Vegas have their own undo button...

John, I very much appreciate you taking the time to respond and explaining you the interface is as it is.

From what I've seen so far on the two freebies, I'm tempted to investigate other Fasst apps, especially the colour grading ones.

Regards,

Lenny
Byron K wrote on 11/19/2012, 8:47 PM
John, Thank you for clarifying!