Release of V12 will be premature

videoITguy wrote on 9/8/2012, 11:09 AM
If anyone is curious about the release schedule:
Here's a summary of the history of Vegas Pro releases:

Vegas 11 was released September 2011 (IBC)
Vegas 10 was released October 2010 (just after IBC)
Vegas 9 was released April 2009 (NAB)
Vegas 8 was released September 2007. (IBC)
Vegas 7 was released September 2006. (IBC)
Vegas 6 was released April 2005. (NAB)
Vegas 5 was released April 2004. (NAB)
(Sony purchased it in mid 2003)
Vegas 4 was released April 2003 but had a public beta starting around January.
Vegas 3 was somewhere around December 2001/January 2002

Quote from another thread:Reply by: farss
"Date: 9/8/2012 8:31:50 AM
Apparently **** has frozen over and Vegas Pro 12cs will be released on 21st December 2012., BOB"

Apparently NDA agreements not withstanding with SCS - there has been a a lot of grumbling about the state of this product - and I quote "This version is no where ready for primetime release to the public". Several people , yes, hmmmm? have broken their silence because they are so upset with the marketing arm giving such premature release info at the recent IBC and appearing to be way ahead of the development team.


Comments

Laurence wrote on 9/8/2012, 11:38 AM
My main gripe is the policy of stopping bug fixes on older versions when a new version is released. I just downloaded the latest update to Pro Tools 9 yesterday. Even though Pro Tools 10 is the current version and the one Avid is pushing, they are still making sure that there aren't any remaining bugs in the older versions and that they are viable working systems for those who didn't upgrade. I just ordered Pro Tools 10. I fully expect that it will run well enough to actually use, but if it doesn't, Pro Tools 9 works great. If Vegas 12 isn't yet stable enough to do projects, I will have to go back two generations to actually do any work. That is just crazy!
farss wrote on 9/8/2012, 5:06 PM
"Quote from another thread:Reply by: farss "

1) Please note the comment was in relation to P2 support being added to Vegas.
2) You need to consult the Mayan calender.

"Apparently NDA agreements not withstanding with SCS"

I have no NDA agreement with Panasonic, any Mayan god nor any with SCS or Sony regarding information that is now public.

Bob.
ushere wrote on 9/8/2012, 8:59 PM
i will be calling on all gods to bring their roth to bear if 12 is released in the same state 11 was.

that said, this time round i am not going to even bother trying to get any 'early' discount on 12 till i've read from the stalwarts here that it's good to go.

the time / money i lost with trying to work with 11 was abominable, and now, well i think one more point release that fixed the outstanding bugs (incl the wacom one) in 11 would restore my confidence in scs.

but i'm not holding my breath, nor confident of 12 working out the box, and thinking that as clunky as edius is, it's looking more attractive by the crash.....
LoTN wrote on 9/9/2012, 1:15 AM
My main gripe is the policy of stopping bug fixes on older versions when a new version is released. I just downloaded the latest update to Pro Tools 9 yesterday. Even though Pro Tools 10 is the current version and the one Avid is pushing, they are still making sure that there aren't any remaining bugs in the older versions and that they are viable working systems for those who didn't upgrade.

Apparently SCS doesn't have the resources, nor the processes to provide such support. I often wondered if they, at least, use any source code management system which is a key factor when having to deal with multiple software versions... Software market is a very specific one where companies can sell products that do not comply with standards, do not work not as stated and do not get fixed. SCS is not an exception. Avid market is not the same, their main target is professional in post houses and newsrooms etc.. and the price tag is not the same too. An update policy like SCS one is simply unacceptable for these professionals and they are ready to pay for a support agreement that fulfills their requirements.

Another gripe: acknowledged bugs that never get fixed...

If SCS management decide to change this, the prices will have to be considerably raised. Actually, it looks like the customers turnover has no negative economic impact. If not the case, this is a long term suicidal attitude.



i'm not holding my breath, nor confident of 12 working out the box, and thinking that as clunky as edius is, it's looking more attractive by the crash...

clunky ? not really for me, but for sure it is austere ...
ushere wrote on 9/9/2012, 1:52 AM
@lotn - sorry, i didn't mean clunky in any other sense than it's ui and 'old style' two track editing.

is there any other 'pro' nle with drag clip over for dissolve?
LoTN wrote on 9/9/2012, 2:28 AM
Relax Leslie ... :)

I agree with you that EDIUS is very 'academic', otoh, it is fast and doesn't crash

I am not sure about it but I believe that D3 Edit has the drag over creates dissolve feature.

PeterDuke wrote on 9/9/2012, 4:38 AM
"is there any other 'pro' nle with drag clip over for dissolve?"

Magix Video Pro MX has this, and it hasn't crashed for me yet in the week or two that I have tried it.

They put "pro" in the title like everyone these days but it is up to you whether you consider it professional grade or not.

See my comments here, if you haven't already seen them:

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?MessageID=825839&Replies=21
ushere wrote on 9/9/2012, 5:26 AM
thanks peter, will have a look at it...