..and the boxes come in TEAL & ORANGE! SOLD! :D

WOW!! If they can release a bug-free version right off the bat, this will be a very impressive release.

Mike

I could easily live without DVDA, i use much easier to use external solutions for that - always have done.
Just a little concerned about what else may be removed from the Edit version. Dolby?

Paul.

Since I already own, DVD architect 5.2 as it was part of Vegas 11,
guess 12 Edit will do.
Anyone have pricing?

Since some render in DVDA, a 64 bit version is more important than 64 bit audio plugs that have always render quick in vegas. I'm interested in the new fx masking capabilities & clip color matching. The thumbnail update is good too. The Vegas 12 collection series with an already owned dvda5.2 without an update seems hardly a collection, logical, or worth it regardless what anyone thinks.

I can't remember the last time I made a DVD. I feel much the same way about DVDs as I do about VCR tapes.

To me this decision makes sense. SCS is paying what I understand is a pretty hefty licensing fee to Dolby Labs for the AC-3 codec, and then most of us are hardly using it. If it can save end users money, why not?

Fan-frickin-tastic! Some of the new features will be of tremendous use to me. Can't wait.

I'm pretty sure the "cs" in the URL means "coming soon", not part of the product name.

Why would you think DVDA might be going away or that the integration is breaking? You can still buy Pro 12 *WITH* DVDA.

I have to admit to liking the new feature list. Nothing on there that is necessarily a must have for me (especially since I just bought iZotope). Just a reasonable feature list.

However, with my experience in upgrading to v11 early on, I doubt I will jump on this one until I start seeing widespread reports of v12 being stable. If I see the reports of instability that many have suffered through with v11, it might just be my last straw causing me to just to Adobe (not something I look forward to).

It is pretty easy to see that the pre-announcement is driven by the marketing department of SCS and not any significant technical advancement to further real-world usage.

When we are looking at the specifics of dividing VegasPro from the DVDArchPro software line - it is because the marketing dept survey of use in the field...... says that the bulk of the current low-end NLE users are dedicated to producing 'Utube stuff. They "don't care" about the technologies of Blu-ray or DVD for that matter. The conclusion of the marketing arm of SCS management - give the market just what they want -BUT Price VegasEdit at the previous retail price - so that SCS coffers will fill with more revenue. And despite a point made in a previous post - this has nothing to do with the internal costs associated with Dolby-Pro licensing holding up the financial stream. They can continue to offset that issue by charging premium at the Architect software install as it always has been -this approach can now allow them to "cost" this process even more - thus grabbing more $ at the expense of customer choice in purchase.

What is really missing from the selling strategy here - is that SCS maybe making a choice to limit their NLE to the 'Utuber production type - (didn't we see this customization in the latest AVC templates in Version 11) - rather than foresee that a good low-priced NLE ought to appeal a wider audience of customer.

Now they are making much of the effort to swing .veg projects to Adobe or FCPX...but doesn't that mean that there will be fast only cuts edit in the Sony timeline exported to "more" capable editors that have tons of video efx and audio customization possible in the other brands of NLE. Kind of seems to be a backhand slap at any attempt to further the development of the SCS NLE standing head and shoulders to the other big-name competitors.

No mention of smart rendering AVCHD, but why would they, if they are lusting after the big players that also don't offer it?

Some attractive improvements listed there, as well as some stuff that I've not heard of (L*a*b* etc.). I'm far more interested in stability than new features.

I'm disappointed that there is no mention of updates to the Media Manager. A big gap remains in the market there.

I'm not bothered about the DVDA separation as I already have version 5.2 with Vegas 10, but it would be nice if they fixed the niggles that some on here have had with Blu-ray button non-functionality.

I will almost certainly buy this at the introductory rate, if they offer that again. Then if V12 turns out to be too unstable, at least the project interchange feature should in theory let me get my existing projects into Premiere Pro.

Saw this in the video . . . .

Vertical Stacking Panes - Nice!

Thumbnails in Explorer - Wunderbar! - Nick, maybe a precursor to moving from Media Mangler?

Template and FX Masking in PanCrop - An indication that the Vegas front end will becoming more adventurous?

Must bone-up on LAB.

And yes, Stability<>Stability<>Stability . . . .

Grazie

Thumbnails in Explorer - Wunderbar! - Nick, maybe a precursor to moving from Media Mangler?

Explorer thumbnails will be a great addition. But there's an awful lot more than that to Media Manager. I hope it's at least possible to still run MM inside V12, while we wait in hope of someone coming up with a better media managing solution. Grazie did you ever get your mysterious V11 MM problems sorted?

Hi Nick. Compat mode - no MM. No Compat mode - MM.

Paid work in VP10 and then very fast renders in VP11, with some tiny edits.

So, editing in Vegas is at present a combo compromise of the Curate's Egg and Hobsan's Choice!

Cheers

Grazie

Hi,

Very promissing. It's good aliance with other market players (as HitFilm for example) - they are young, but they have already builded their identity on market. I have been always pushing on compositing aspects (with 3D camera track) in Vegas, but integration with external 3D compositior is even better. XML and possiblity to work with DaVinci (which is my favourite color grading application (NOT because it's free)) sounds fantastic.

I have skipped Vegas11 : IMHO this version was very difficult for SCS designers, because they had to overrun all issues connected with OFX platform and GPU support. Now it looks like, they fill comfortable in this areas and Vegas is going to unfold the wings.

best regards,

I've got this crazy idea! How about they fix the "new" features in Pro 11 before they try and get me to bite on 12!

Fool me once.......

+ 1 tim20

nowhere in the pr release for 12 is there any mention of stability, robustness, reliability...... without them it's going to be another dogs breakfast!

leslie, in your case that would be sheep's breakfast wouldn't it :)
Or is it horses these days!!

Mike

I wonder if Dolby Digital is is included with Vegas Pro 12 Edit? It has always been a feature of DVDA.

ECB

Apparently hell has frozen over and Vegas Pro 12cs will be released on 21st December 2012.

Bob.

12-12-12 would be even better.
At least we'd have nine days to play with it :)

Mike