Subject:Ok... I stand corrected. AP7 running smooth again.

Posted by: 519tbarr

Date:8/9/2012 12:28:16 AM

Ok...
So I can acknowledge when I am wrong on a few things... And it seems I have been wrong, confused, and over worked a lot lately.
Regarding my AP7 vs Music Studio 9 which one is better post...
There's no question out of the box Music Studio works great. But it does lack features that I use on a regular basis.
I have been having many problems with AP7 until tonight.
I kept trying to figure out what was wrong and why Acid Pro was stuttering and acting crazy on my system.
So I uninstalled Windows 7 Service Pack 1 and every update I had on my computer.
Amazingly - AP7 sprung back to life.

Are there any known issues with Acid Pro 7 and Win 7 64x Service Pack 1?
The only thing I reinstalled was the .net framework updates within Windows 7 - pre service pack one.

Any info that anyone might be able to shed light on would be greatly appreciated.
So having said that, I am a happy camper using AP7 once again.
I'm going to get this record done!!!

Subject:RE: Ok... I stand corrected. AP7 running smooth again.

Reply by: 519tbarr

Date:8/12/2012 12:52:21 PM

A note to all ACID Pro Users.
Yes I managed to get Acid Pro 7 working lovely again like it hasn't worked in a year or so. Turns out when i wiped my computer clean this week just before I did that, I was viewing my reports in Windows - that sends Error reports and in it was the lovely Acid Pro icon. Acid Pro 7 is a known compatibility issue in Windows 7 - Service Pack 1.
So for anyone struggling with Acid Pro like i was for a long time - uninstall Service Pack 1 and make sure your microsoft.net framework is upgraded to 3.5 after you uninstall it and life and Acid Pro 7 should be good to go.
If Peter is out here or anyone from the development team - this is an issue that should be resolved and updated.

Subject:RE: Ok... I stand corrected. AP7 running smooth again.

Reply by: Vocalpoint

Date:8/13/2012 9:36:05 AM

Acid Pro 7 is a known compatibility issue in Windows 7 - Service Pack 1.
So for anyone struggling with Acid Pro like i was for a long time - uninstall Service Pack 1 and make sure your microsoft.net framework is upgraded to 3.5 after you uninstall it and life and Acid Pro 7 should be good to go.

Well - considering AP7 was built in 2008 - when Windows 7 did not exist - I am not surprised there are "compatibility" issues with it. However - if the vendor cannot keep up with their product - the last thing I would ever do is roll back my OS just to run some outdated app. Running a 3 year version of the OS is just inviting problems...

VP

Subject:RE: Ok... I stand corrected. AP7 running smooth again.

Reply by: 519tbarr

Date:8/13/2012 10:34:17 AM

VP
There is absolutely no question I want an updated version of Acid Pro. This year alone I have bought Pro Tools 10, and Studio One Pro V2.
I've been trying to finish up an album for a while now which was done primarily in ACID as it is the first DAW I learned to use.
I have extremely large track counts which I am in the process of trying to cut down right now. I did export these tracks from ACID thinking I was going to leave the platform. I imported them to S1V2 only to find out that I was going to max the disc space usage in S1V2. Oddly enough ACID Pro didn't have a problem running my insane track count. So hence why I ended up back at ACID Pro - trying to figure out a way I could make things work.
I am not keen on rolling back my operating system to Windows 7 pre SP1 - however at this point (including a clean wipe in the process) it is what I have to do in order to finish this album.
I admit I am not a fan of Pro Tools. I just hate the layout and the UI of the program. I do like Studio One Pro 2 (love the comping system)- however - I hate the ruler time bar setup in it. Editing is a minor pain in the... That is where ACID on the editing end rules.
Windows 8 is around the corner. No one knows if AP7 is going to work on Win 8 64x or if Acid Pro has a future. (But we all would love it to come back to life! - newly improved!)

Subject:RE: Ok... I stand corrected. AP7 running smooth again.

Reply by: Vocalpoint

Date:8/13/2012 12:56:26 PM

Hmm...not sure why you need insane track counts or why your project would exceed S1V2's disc space usage (sounds like a hardware issue to me)...but I am almost certain that if AP7 doesn't work right in Win 7 - then any hope of it working in Win 8 is doubtful.

Re Windows 8 - now that's it's official that Microsoft will be blocking the user from starting Windows 8 in the actual old school desktop and forcing them to use Metro - further solidifies my use of Windows 7 to actually get work down.

I have been tracking reviews from many folks who have installed the actual final version of Windows 8 and most are saying to not bother as it's a total clusterf**k.

That's enough for me to stay away - and I am one of those guys who gets the OS early due to my Microsoft licensing plan.

VP

Subject:RE: Ok... I stand corrected. AP7 running smooth again.

Reply by: 519tbarr

Date:8/13/2012 2:14:44 PM

track counts are high because some of the takes per instrument are in parts. I never bothered to start comping tracks together (wasting time) because in Acid Pro it worked. i.e.: I took 300 tracks out of acid and S1V2 would max at 100% disc space. (Pain in the...)
So for the time being what I am doing is recording my bass into S1V2, comping it, and then exporting back to AP7. I like the sound of the bottom end better in S1V2. And being honest, when I started recording this record, I knew nothing about DAW's recording, and slowly started building an arsenal of gear, preamps, mics and so on. So some tracks are seriously raw 57 mic and a crappy 4 channel board setup with Acid Pro 5 originally and then to today with Vocals being done through a couple of 414's, and a liquid channel. The learning curve has been nuts, but I haven't given up!
I plan on buying Win 8 when it comes out as the upgrade is cheap $39.95 but have no intention of installing it anytime soon until the bugs get worked out. Win 7 has been fine for me.

Subject:RE: Ok... I stand corrected. AP7 running smooth again.

Reply by: Vocalpoint

Date:8/13/2012 2:50:55 PM

Interesting way of working...but not very efficient.

I have not a single project in 11 years of home recording that has exceeded 32 tracks....and I comp like crazy. But over here - comping means getting rid of the chaff.

I don't see the need in laboring over anything and do a hundred comps per track...if I can't get something in 4 or 5 takes...it's discarded and I move on.

Gotta keep this fun or it ain't worth my time.

I am still baffled by the S1 errors - is it that a single project can't have 300 tracks or is it that a project with 300 tracks will not run?

VP

Subject:RE: Ok... I stand corrected. AP7 running smooth again.

Reply by: 519tbarr

Date:8/15/2012 9:50:23 AM

I agree on the not efficient part. Next record won't be recorded this way!
As per the S1v2 thing - i am going to guess it's a project with 300 tracks that won't run. The only thing I haven't done was try cutting around the tracks - because things were in parts and see if the extra dead space cut out allows the disc space to not max out.
I may try that over the weekend.
Thanks for your help VP.