Subject:How do I lose tinny sound..... New bee

Posted by: jon841

Date:11/9/2001 4:40:02 PM

I recorded some vo in a bath room and it sounds really tinny any way to lose the tinny sound

Jon C

Subject:RE: How do I lose tinny sound..... New bee

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:11/9/2001 5:29:43 PM

What kind of microphone are you using? I would first suspect a not so pro microphone, would be the problem. If you have a good condenser microphone, then you might be having a problem with Phase. In a bathroom there are many reflective surfaces. What happens is that the sound is reflected off a wall and then travels to the microphone, this distance is a greater traveling distance than the direct sound coming from the VO person. What happens is that the 2 signals are out of phase and they cancel each other at certain frequencies and cause a very thin sound. To correct this you will have to hang up some blankets and towels on the walls to keep sound from reflecting off the walls.

Regards,
Brian Franz

Subject:RE: How do I lose tinny sound..... New bee

Reply by: jon841

Date:11/9/2001 5:48:31 PM

Thank You

I kind of thought it would not sound good, but I no longer have access to the talent
so do you know what filter I would start with in sound forge ?

Thank you

Jon Carlson

Subject:RE: How do I lose tinny sound..... New bee

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:11/10/2001 1:03:11 PM

Well, if it sounds thin, then like I mentioned some frequencies got cancelled, so it is almost impossible to get back what was never recorded. The only thing you can do now is to try using an EQ and boast the frequencies that aren't there or are very low in level. Add an EQ and try boasting between 200-400 Hz, this will add some fullness to the VO. Try boasting 800-3Khz, this is where the main body of the V.O. is. Then to add some sparkle to the V.O. try boasting 4.5Khz to 7Khz. Play around with each frequency range, narrowing the bandwidth and sweeping the center frequency and see if it gives the effect you're looking for. I would be able to tell you exactly where to boast if I could hear what was playing, but it will be very beneficial for you to play around with it yourself to see how different EQ bands affect the voice. Don't be afraid to over boast the frequencies so that you really get the feel for what area of the voice it's affecting.

Subject:RE: How do I lose tinny sound..... New bee

Reply by: VU-1

Date:11/12/2001 11:38:49 PM

If EQ alone does not work, you could try to re-record the overdub by routing the track you already have thru a tube driven mic-pre (careful not to overload the input) or a tube DI or similar device. The tubes will help thicken up the signal a little bit. Then load the overdub back into your editor and EQ from there.

Jeff Lowes
On-Track Recording

Subject:RE: How do I lose tinny sound..... New bee

Reply by: JTelles

Date:11/13/2001 9:18:49 AM

Another alternative is APPLY SOME COMPRESSION to the sound (ideal if you could separate vocal from the rest and compress) and check if it improves vocal fulness. A multiband comp/limiter could separate mid frequencies (voice frequenciies) and partially emphasize the vocal...
Good luck
JTelles