Subject:Dead, Dead, Dead

Posted by: Rickms

Date:4/30/2012 3:54:54 PM

Guys,

Peter can say what he likes, maybe he does not know the future, maybe this is above his pay-grade. I cannot see a reason for Sony to continue development. Try to find any serious DAW product that has sat on the same codebase for 4+ years. That is an eternity in technology these days. Other product have signification leap-frogged ACID. There are some many great products out there that can meet anybodies needs.

Sony was really first to market with a commercial loop based product, but I am pretty sure if Ford did not develop beyond the Model T they would not be in business today. And for those die hard ACID users who refuse to accept the inevitable, yes you can still find a Model T, and you can drive one, but I am pretty sure it will not be your only car. Sony's customer base has moved on, they will not get them back.

Sony is a huge company, this product is a minute part of their portfolio. Look at http://www.mackie.com/products/tracktion/tracktion.html. This product has been dead for years although you can actually still find people selling it. Sony, Mackie are going to milk what they can from a product. Sony is not going to tell you there is no future if they have a chance of selling a few more copies or more loop libraries. Perhaps in their mind there will a potential to sell the intellectual property and gain some value out of its legacy.

Subject:RE: Dead, Dead, Dead

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:5/1/2012 1:35:25 PM

Not to be confrontational, but insinuating Peter is clueless right off the bat is not a good way to try to win an argument.

ACID is a musician's tool first and foremost. Cut that out of the equation and you leave a gaping hole the other two juggernauts (Sound Forge and Vegas) cannot fill.

Yes, Vegas can mix. Yes, Vegas can record audio as can Sound Forge. Both cannot record MIDI. Sound Forge can improve and creatively work with audio, but musically-speaking, it cannot create a complete, non-destructive, musical project. As an added bonus for those musicians who collaborate, ACID lets one use a video track for reference purposes.

I'm a little perplexed since people think sticking with ACID is like saying one is stuck in the past; as if they couldn't create anything of creative value. That's extremely ridiculous to even think that way considering what ACID in its present incarnation can do (and considering how far it's come).

Iacobus

Subject:RE: Dead, Dead, Dead

Reply by: 519tbarr

Date:5/1/2012 2:01:08 PM

I understand your frustration lacobus.
There are some here who believe the platform is dead - that Sony has dropped the ball, and to an extent they have allowed the program to become stale - the last update was Early 2010. A lot has happened in the audio world since 2010. And a lot is going to happen in 2012 - moving into 2013. Windows will be graduating to Windows 8 this year.
I too love Acid Pro. I am frustrated by some of the issues that I am having with Acid Pro on a Windows 7 - 64 bit platform. Ive got a relatively capable computer and capable hardware.

I think most of the frustration comes from a lack of not knowing 100 percent that Sony is continuing on and plans on developing Acid Pro any further than Acid Pro 7.

I agree that being confrontational with Peter - developer is not in the best interests of anyone on this forum - however - i would imagine - the forum is speaking Loud and Clear and some of the words are being spoken within reason. As developers of any software or platform they should take notice when the customer base - loyal base start asking questions. Many other developers have moved multiple versions of their software since Acid Pro 7.

Most things i love about Acid Pro 7, the thing's I don't love are things that keep me from being productive within the software and that's what really matters. Can the software handle the work load, does it communicate well with other platforms, plugins, and so on, and is it staying innovative...

Thats my analysis

Subject:RE: Dead, Dead, Dead

Reply by: buckaroo

Date:5/2/2012 4:32:49 AM

I still think Acid Pro is dead, even though there are cryptic clues and statements to say it isn't - I dont think Sony really know what they are doing, and maybe they will incorporate this (whats left) into Vegas so its an all rounder DAW.

I'm not sure how Sony can compete with the smaller DAWs with massive features, like S1, Reaper, especially the latter which took the best bits of Acid and expanded it into a full feature DAW / Editor and its a massive following..

Don't get me wrong, I love Acid from back in the day as it was ridiculously easy to use along with Sound Forge as its editor. Things were simpler back then and I loved using the both.

I only have an old 10 yr old laptop which works ok, but I wouldn't dream of doing MIDI on it. The last version I lookat was Acid Pro 6.0 which was ok but I thought that was bloated.

So here's what I do ; As its a 10 yr old laptop, Sonic Foundry Acid Pro 3.0 does me fine! I only use audio and I love it as its solid.
I'm primarily a Mac user so all my MIDI and VST's are on the Mac which is solid.

I think as I have a 10yr old laptop P4, I can't really go any higher than Acid Pro 3.0. I did try the MIDI in Acid when it came out and up to 6.0, and must say that it was disappointing..

I think Acid is dead, but then I'm not that bothered, as I moved onto Reaper Mac. I would like to see what happens eventually, but Acid Pro 3.0 is perfect and a tiny footprint that runs great on an old machine. Acid and the laptop still think its 2002!

I do DJ mixes and mashups in Acid, which is still the king for me. But have been told that Reaper Mac etc can now lock beats and tracks to the grid, as well as cutting slicing and reversing, and per item fx, which may give my v3.0 a run for its money

Subject:RE: Dead, Dead, Dead

Reply by: Chienworks

Date:5/2/2012 6:44:47 AM

My first home PC was a discarded 386sx 20MHz from work, with maybe 2MB RAM and 40MB hard drive running Windows 95. It ran ACID 2 and then later ACID 3 just fine, including MIDI.

I'd think your laptop would probably handle ACID 6 without problems, though you might not be able to do a large number of tracks.

Subject:RE: Dead, Dead, Dead

Reply by: buckaroo

Date:5/2/2012 11:01:44 AM

Thanks Chienworks, but I have tried it and with the media manager and a few other bits, it does run, but it felt bloated and sluggish...

I think im quite happy with Acid Pro 3 and also remember the good old days of my P2 128mb Pc that ran Acid 2.0 for years.

This is a P4 1.7Ghz and Acid 3 runs fine with Sound Forge 5.0 and 8.0 ;)