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RRA wrote on 3/16/2012, 1:59 PM
http://www.borisfx.com/borisfxwiki/index.php/Boris_Continuum_Complete_8.0.0_for_Sony_Vegas_Release_Notes

Realise Notes have appeared but no 'installation procedure' ...

Best regards,
Ros wrote on 3/16/2012, 3:07 PM
I tried installing the 32 bit version since I rarely use it but it needs a Trial Install Code so I wasn't able to finish the installation.

Usually when you download a BorisFx trial, you get an email with the serial but after several attempts, I gave up and posted over on the BorisFx forum.

Rob
Laurence wrote on 3/16/2012, 3:35 PM
What is the update deal? I have both Boris Red and BCC7.
Leee wrote on 3/16/2012, 3:41 PM
It doesn't look like BCC 8 has been released yet for Vegas Pro. Thus the name BCC 8 AE (which primarily is meant for After Effects. It really looks cool thought, I'm looking forward to upgrading from BCC 7 as well. And since I just purchased, maybe I'll get a free upgrade ;-)

The particle efx look awesome. I wish they would post a release date for us Vegas users.
Leee wrote on 3/16/2012, 3:53 PM
Cool! Thanks for the link. It was well hidden.
monoparadox wrote on 3/16/2012, 4:35 PM
Anyone getting an install code from Boris?
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Leee wrote on 3/17/2012, 3:59 AM
Well I got the trial code in an email, but when I tried to purchase BCC8, I could not find the purchase page (either to upgrade from BCC7 or for a full purchase) for Sony Vegas users.

The trial version works pretty well within Vegas, with a minimal of crashes, but there is nothing in the BorisFX store that shows any BCC8 products for Vegas.

Has anyone found the purchase page?
RRA wrote on 3/17/2012, 4:02 AM
Hi,

Please, answer if you can - I can't experiment with BCC8, because have open projects with BCC7 :

- will BCC8 exist parallely with BCC7 in Vegas ?
- or BCC8 overwrites BCC7 ?
- what about old projects with implemented fx-s from BCC7 ? can I still open it ?
- how it works under 10e (10e is presented as minimal requirements in 10 line - I don't have 11 installed) ?

AND SOME MORE INTERSTED QUESTIONS :

- are there all promised new fx and generators (list is in release notes) ?
- are compositing modes capable to work properly with projects with 32 bit colour pixel mode ? (especially light wrap : in order to use it with AVCHD files I had to use 8 bit mode, otherwise there were errors in rendering looking as solarizatin of something similar).

Best regards,
RRA wrote on 3/17/2012, 4:06 AM
Hi,

I have forgoetten about basic question ;

- should I deinstall BCC7 before install BCC8 ?

... I can remember, that it was strongly advised during previous updates of BCC7 - have asked boris support, but there is no answer yet ...

Best regards,
Leee wrote on 3/17/2012, 8:39 AM
It looks like (and I could be wrong) that both BCC7 and 8 coexist side by side, in fact the way my Video FX tab looks, it now consists of one (very long) list of BCC plugins, both 7 and 8 all mixed together in alphabetical order.

My memory isn't what it used to be, but I definitely remember Chroma Key from BCC7 and now I see Particle Fountain, one of the new plugins I remember from the BCC8 new features list.

I also have noticed a certain amount of stability (although Vegas did "hang" twice), I gave the new plugins a pretty good workout, going down the list, adding then deleting one plugin after another on the same video clip. All the while, moving control settings and sliders for each one. I was expecting Vegas to crash any minute, but to my surprise it lasted a lot longer than I would have expected before any sign of trouble.
monoparadox wrote on 3/17/2012, 9:04 AM
It looked to me like BCC8 automatically uninstalls BCC7 during the install process. I see no traces of BCC7, however my filter packages have been retained. I ususally save to filter packages, can't say about presets being retained since I seldom save to presets. Keyframes seem to hold to the new version. (I would recommend using a saved version of any work in process until you get your feet on the ground by adequately testing for your situation.)

You can see the version number of the FX in the detail area under the Vegas Plugin Manager or FX window. Mine are now all BCC8. All in all, things seem very stable. Love the particle generators.
Ros wrote on 3/17/2012, 9:08 AM
I don't think they coexist side by side, they all get updated to version 8.

I rarely use Vegas 32-bit so I installed BCC 8-32 bit and in the Windows control panel, I only have BCC 8 OFX 32bit and BCC 7 OFX 64bit showing up.

Also the 3 Way Color Grade filter is not included in the initial BCC 8 because of host issues.

I haven't uninstalled BCC 7 (32-bit) prior to installing BCC 8 (32-bit).

My presets were saved.

Rob
monoparadox wrote on 3/17/2012, 9:48 AM
I think it was a case of Boris Y. posting the link in the COW forum to appease those who have been (im)patiently waiting for the new version. I'm sure the purchase info will be up early next week. In the meantime, have fun playing with it over the weekend.
Leee wrote on 3/17/2012, 9:56 AM
Rob, you are right. I didn't notice the version number in the bottom of the Preset window pane, all of which now say Version 8.0. So basically it looks like all the same FX from BCC 7 are there (now updated to 8) alongside the newly added Video FX. What a deal! I'm really curious what the upgrade prices will be like.
But, I guess we'll all find out soon enough.
RRA wrote on 3/17/2012, 1:03 PM
Hi,

Thank you for answers. It looks risky : what if I will decide : NOT BUY ?

... how to recover BCC7 ?

Best regards,
JohnnyRoy wrote on 3/17/2012, 1:51 PM
> "Thank you for answers. It looks risky : what if I will decide : NOT BUY ? ... how to recover BCC7 ?"

Uninstall the BCC8 trial and re-install BCC7. It's that easy.

~jr
Spectralis wrote on 3/17/2012, 4:20 PM
I have Boris RED 5 and BCC 7. Apart from the integration into Vegas does BCC 8 offer anything more than RED 5? I'm wondering whether to hold out for RED 6 which might appear after Adobe CS6 or upgrade to BCC 8 now. I feel like I'm duplicating RED with BCC.
RRA wrote on 3/18/2012, 4:38 AM
Hi,

... install BCC8 and install BCC7 ...

... it will destroy organization of plugins in PlugInManager - I'm afraid also about mess in Windows Registry - can't believe that BCC7 plugins will be installed with the same specyfic key registry as before. Also is problem with Optical Flow, which I have used in some projects.

Another interesting issue is price for upgrade. BCC7 is from very begining promoted as ;

"The Swiss Army Knife of Visual Effects! On sale for $595 - regularly $995!"

Buying BCC7 I have known, that missing fxs and generators will be added in next UPDATES - then was message, that because of non_interactive preview window in Vegas, Boris had to cancel this task. I still have in my archive assurances form Boris sales and support departments that missing elements are on workshop ...

Should be also mentioned, that BCC7 had a lot of problems connected with early adoption - several consecutive updates was because reliability of product (with assistance of users of course).

Now can see, that acctually BCC8 is not using interactive preview windows for adjustment of fxs attributes, but effects and generators can work in Vegas - it means, that it was also possible in BCC7 too.

BCC7 also was not capable to work in 32 bit pixel colour in some fx and, what is the most important, in compositing modes (light wrap).

I can feel, that Boris has mixed two things, which should not be mixed : promotion of new product on Vegas host with missing plugins and generators.

I hope, that decision of pricing will be reasonable - if not I will not buy, exactly like I have not bough SVP11 (where GPU support is about 2 years late, but still is a lot of problem with early adoption - and where situation, that product has bugs and they are not solved from SVP8 to SVP11, become an accepted STANDARD).

Best regards,


JohnnyRoy wrote on 3/18/2012, 9:21 AM
> "I have Boris RED 5 and BCC 7. Apart from the integration into Vegas does BCC 8 offer anything more than RED 5?"

Yes, it has new plug-ins like the Beat Reactor, Film Glow, Lens Flare 3D, Flicker Fixer, etc. that RED 5 doesn't have.

> " I'm wondering whether to hold out for RED 6 which might appear after Adobe CS6 or upgrade to BCC 8 now. I feel like I'm duplicating RED with BCC."

Well you're duplicating some of RED with BCC but RED contains a lot more than just the BCC plug-ins. I have no idea what RED 6 will bring, but RED has always contained BCC+ more in the past so if you don't need any of the new FX in BCC8 right now, you could hold out until RED gets them but there is no telling when that might be.

~jr
monoparadox wrote on 3/18/2012, 9:21 AM
Actually, it looks like BCC8 does NOT change the structure of BCC7 (if you created one) in the plugin manager. It does create a heirarchy in the Video FX window. But, I haven't gone back to BCC7, so I'm not sure what ultimate changes might be made. It seems it would be minimal. BTW, the new plugins don't show up in the structure I created in plugin manager.

I would suggest creating a system restore point in Windows before installation, which is good practice when installing anything new.
Spectralis wrote on 3/18/2012, 2:40 PM
Thanks JohnnyRoy, that's a very clear explanation. I'll probably cave in and upgrade to BCC8 if it's not too expensive. I do like the way the BCC plugins integrate into Vegas.