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Subject:Who else uses acid for completely original music
Posted by: Darklight20
Date:10/28/2001 11:48:24 AM
I was wondering if any of you out there use sound forge and acid to make completely original without the loop cds. |
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Subject:RE: Who else uses acid for completely original music
Reply by: SonicSounds
Date:10/29/2001 12:20:53 AM
I try to not use the loop CDs and make my own original compositions. The only thing I'll use the loop CDs for are drumbeats/percussion and one shots. I figure what's the point of using a someone elses chord progressions or melodies when I can play them myself. I think if you only make songs with the loop CDs you're a producer/engineer. If you make songs with original, self-composed loops you're a musician/producer/engineer/artist. I probably will raise some hell for this but it's what I think. I know that sometimes you'll get a catchy loop off the CDs and use it but it seems like cheating when I use just the loop CDs to make music. |
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Subject:RE: Who else uses acid for completely original music
Reply by: BPB
Date:10/29/2001 8:45:06 AM
I do 80% original work..I work with a few clients who bring me tracks recorded on their home VS880's etc and I fly them into Acid and take some of their own tracks and cut them up and loop them. I use mostly drums and percussion from the cd's. Then the final mix goes to Sound Forge for mastering. Where I use mostly WAVES plugins for sweetening. Bryan |
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Subject:RE: Who else uses acid for completely original music
Reply by: spesimen
Date:10/29/2001 12:37:13 PM
pretty much the same here. for electronic music i almost exclusively use my own samples and sounds. when i'm doing rock stuff i use sampled beats from time to time, although i usually replace or layer those with real drums before final. i also used a violin loop sample once that came on the free disc with acid. hehe. |
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Subject:RE: Who else uses acid for completely original music
Reply by: Mus
Date:10/29/2001 1:55:51 PM
Hi guys, Yep same story. I play Guitar, Bass and Keyboards so these go in as played/sequenced in Logic against Acid percussion loops for my dance/pop stuff. I haven't tried to 'construct' a melody or bass line in Acid - it seems like it might be pretty time-consuming. The only thing I might use instrumental loops for in the future is if I try to realise one of my more modern jazzy pieces from On A Jazz Tip maybe. I gotta say though that Acid has really pepped up my music no end - I was sceptical about using loops in Logic Audio and was put off by time/pitch-stretching, but Acid makes it so easy to audition stuff to find something that fits it's great! I end up re-doing the whole thing in Logic Audio though because Sync'ing 2 apps on the same machine is just too problematic. Regards Mus |
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Subject:RE: Who else uses acid for completely original music
Reply by: firstfry
Date:10/29/2001 2:15:58 PM
i play all guitars,wind,brass,keys..the only thing i use for loops is drums... http://www.acidplanet.com/Lounge/ArtistDetail.asp?ArtistID=11938 |
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Subject:RE: Who else uses acid for completely original music
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:10/29/2001 11:15:51 PM
I'm a total One-Shot/Loop/Beatmapped track whore. (Especially for One-Shot percussive tracks.) My ACIDplanet page. Note: Opens new browser window. At least for now anyway. That'll change very soon. I don't think using loops equates to cheating. It's the challenge to do something special and creative with them that spurns me. I'm personally thanking Sonic Foundry for the Chopper (which is only in ACID Pro 3). I can create something unique with canned loops this way, especially if I don't like the way a loop progresses. I used to have to do this in Sound Forge, which was sort of a pain in the arse compared to the Chopper. Iacobus |
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Subject:RE: Who else uses acid for completely original music
Reply by: Rockitglider
Date:10/30/2001 8:27:57 AM
Hello, Since all you guys seem to be able to create loops so easily for acid, Could some of you explain how to create flawless loops for Acid, becausethe only instrament I play is guitar, and I use alot of loops for all the instraments I don't play, but I can't seem to get my guitar waves to loop properly, and consistently for syncing in Acid Thanks, Rockit |
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Subject:RE: Who else uses acid for completely original music
Reply by: Bisquilis
Date:10/30/2001 6:10:32 PM
I personally use any and every means available to do tracks. I sing, play guitar, bass, keys, and drums. I believe that if you can take elements of things and arrange and combine them in unique ways you're just as creative as if you did it all yourself. However, it is great to have the musical skills to take an instrument and provide that "perfect" thing that just couldn't come off of a website or disc. Just my $.02 |
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Subject:RE: Who else uses acid for completely original music
Reply by: Darklight20
Date:10/30/2001 8:58:21 PM
Well if you not trying to make the guitar sampled based you might as well render the rest of the tracks as single tracks that are looped at the tempo you want them at and then open them up in a multitrack recorder software such as vegas. They should all line up together. Next just record your guitar over them. |
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Subject:RE: Who else uses acid for completely original music
Reply by: alex
Date:10/30/2001 9:27:55 PM
If your riffs can not be looped, switch them to disk based tracks Alex |
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Subject:RE: Who else uses acid for completely original music
Reply by: BeachDog
Date:10/30/2001 9:43:57 PM
Hi, I never considered using lots of loops for the style of music I usually produce (pop/rock) since most loop CDs do not give you enough choices. But I stumbled across these loops at www.smartloops.com and now my ideas on loops have changed. So I'll use these loops in ACID, and sometimes do the entire project in ACID, except for the mastering. BeachDog |
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Subject:RE: Who else uses acid for completely original music
Reply by: thefox
Date:10/31/2001 1:09:43 AM
i would like to use acid to make high quality demos. the demos I have done have so far have been done completely in acid. i use a few one shots, I usually just make my own from various drum machines I get my hands on. as far as recording music into acid 3.0, is acids recorder as good as vegas's, and as good as other multitrack programs for single tracking (all at 24/96)? is it just as good as a progam that uses asio drivers? or, do drivers not matter if your are only single tracking? |
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Subject:RE: Who else uses acid for completely original music
Reply by: Rockitglider
Date:10/31/2001 9:56:27 AM
Hello again, I already do the render as one track and record over it in Vegas 2.0h full version. But I would like to be able to make reusable loops out of my guitar tracks that I record, I can record oneshots all day long, but making reusable loops consistently is a different story. Any other ideas, Thanks for the ones already. Rockit |
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Subject:guitar loops
Reply by: spesimen
Date:10/31/2001 4:25:47 PM
rockit what exactly doesn't work when you try to make riff loops? one of the main reasons i use acid for doing rock stuff is that it is really easy to just fool around and jam with a beat, then splice out the parts that sounded good and loop 'em. instant riffs without having to do a lot of practicing while you're just trying to get ideas down. pretty much as long as your timing when you play is tight you should be able to chop them up on the beat/bar marks and loop away! distorted guitar is usually a little easier to work with. also, play each loop through a few times and make the loop out of the middle, not out of the end or beginning, if you're trying to get a really natural sounding loop. maybe if you can elaborate on what sounds messed up with your riffs there could be more specific suggestions. |
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Subject:RE: guitar loops
Reply by: Rockitglider
Date:11/1/2001 12:05:49 PM
Hello, Riffs is not what I have a problem with, It's cord progressions say either 4 or 8 to 16 BPMessure and either 2 to 4 cords per progression, if you don't play perfectly on time and even if you do, for some reason the home made loops just don't loop the way the disk bought ones do, at least for me. I'm using Sound Forge 5.0d to make the loops. first after recording I cut a part out that is in time with beats, then open in a new window, then do a spectrum analysis, then make loop points, then use the looping tool in process menu to make start and end points line up at 0 point for no clicks, then set the Acid properties. Thats how I'm doing it. Anybody have a easier way? Would like some input. Thanks, Rockit |
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Subject:RE: guitar loops
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:11/1/2001 10:07:59 PM
It certainly sounds like you've got all the bases covered, Rockit. I'm perplexed as well. Mind if I take a look at a couple samples? You can email me here. Iacobus |
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Subject:RE: guitar loops - easier way
Reply by: spesimen
Date:11/2/2001 12:06:13 PM
here's how i do it: 1. get the beat going in a track in acid. 2. play the riff. gotta have good timing though - if your timing is off just practice. 3. set acid to loop on a 2-bar or 4-bar section (or however long the loop needs to be). immediately you'll know if it's gonna work or not.. 4. use render to new track to get a loop file for it. i dont' mess with setting loop points or external editors or anything and it works great...usually by playing it tight it'll slice up nicely. |
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Subject:RE: Who else uses acid for completely original music
Reply by: dlogix
Date:11/2/2001 3:22:49 PM
In my experience, Vegas seems to be much better for multitrack recording. Acid works well for one-shot deals but performance on multi-track recording falls short. Great looping/sequencing software though. I use it all the time. If you are able to make your own drum beats, synth/MIDI, and any other instruments, and you are just starting off, then Acid should be a great way to make original stuff. Try recording tracks in Vegas and sequencing in Acid. |