Subject:Clicks at the begining and end SF 50 files

Posted by: hiddenroom

Date:10/12/2001 4:37:10 AM

Does anyone have any info about the stability of SF 5.0 on dual processor Win2K system? Also using MOTU 2408. I get clicks and pops inserted at either end of file. I cut them off and they reappear on the remainder of the file. Never had this problem on the exact same hardware until I changed to Win2K. This happens with SF 5.0 & 4.5

Subject:RE: Clicks at the begining and end SF 50 files

Reply by: beetlefan

Date:10/12/2001 10:10:50 AM

Try removing the DC offset from your files.

Subject:RE: Clicks at the begining and end SF 50 files

Reply by: jgalt

Date:10/12/2001 11:59:17 AM

This also often occurs in SF 5 with the copy/overwrite options. A tremendous click will be placed at the beginning of the overwrite space. One of the SF people indicated they were looking into it a couple of weeks ago but I never heard any more from them. Running DC offset elimination had no affect.

Subject:RE: Clicks at the begining and end SF 50 files

Reply by: hiddenroom

Date:10/12/2001 12:49:58 PM

Sorry Beetlefan. Still clicking

Subject:RE: Clicks at the begining and end SF 50 files

Reply by: beetlefan

Date:10/12/2001 6:21:34 PM

I never had that problem.

Subject:RE: Clicks at the begining and end SF 50 files

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:10/12/2001 6:54:42 PM

Does the click Physically appear in the waveform display or is it just happening when you playback? If it's just happening when you playback, then you probably need to update your sound card drivers for win2k. Also, when you changed to win2K I'm guessing you did an upgrade from win98? If Sound forge was previously installed under win98, you might want to uninstall it and reinstall it under win2k. I have 5.0 installed on a win2k machine and am having no problems.

Anytime you upgrade an OS, you want to make sure you goto all your hardwares websites and download the latest drivers for that OS and I mean EVERYTHING. Soundcard, Video Card, SCSI Card, Mother Board Bios updates, Modem, Network card, midi interface, CDR Firmware. That is the only way to guarantee everything will work properly.

And after you do all that....."Remove the DC offset", that seems to fix all problems.....LOL :-)

Good luck!!!

Subject:RE: Clicks at the begining and end SF 50 files

Reply by: hiddenroom

Date:10/14/2001 10:49:39 AM

Sorry bud,

But I did not upgrade. I formatted the drive as NTFS and started with a clean installation of win2k. Upon doing this I had to update all drivers for all hardware most importantly the MOTU 2408. And to you and Beetlefan, removing dc offset did absolutely nothing. Keep trying if you can.

Subject:RE: Clicks at the begining and end SF 50 files

Reply by: jgalt

Date:10/14/2001 10:55:28 AM

The click problems I, and some others, experience with the copy and overwrite options may not be the same as experienced by hiddenroom. The ones I'm plagued with show their ugly spikes in the waveform display. It does not happen in SF 4.5 and SF 5.0 but only in SF 5.0d.

Subject:RE: Clicks at the begining and end SF 50 files

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:10/14/2001 12:53:32 PM

Hiddenroom, I was being sarcstic when I mentioned the DC offset advice. I already know, that removing DC offset does not elliminate the clicks you're talking about. You still did not answer my question though as far as where the clicks appear? I might be able to narrow down where your problems are if you can just give me some info here. Maybe exactly what you did to make the clicks appear, so other users can repro the problem. We definitely need to know if you're just hearing the clicks on playback or if you can zoom in on the Wave and actually see them.

Subject:RE: Clicks at the begining and end SF 50 files

Reply by: hiddenroom

Date:10/20/2001 12:43:20 AM

This is a dual PIII 600 machine with 512 megs of ram. It's only purpose is for mastering and editing. Until about 2 weeks ago I was using Win98 because it was stable, but not reaping the benefit of haveing dual processors. I formatted the c drive ntfs and started clean with Win2k. After getting the latest drivers from all hardware websites, I installed the Sound Forges. After having problems, I installed Cubase VST 32 to see if all audio would respond the same. Only Sound Forges [4.5 & 5.0] These clicks don't appear [visusally] on the wave at all. When I cut them off of the wave, though they are not visible, they still come back as an audible click. This is also happens in 4.5, which I still use for CD Architect. This doesn't happen in Cubase 32. That's why I was ruling out hardware. Maybe it's Win2K? Let me know what you think.

Subject:RE: Clicks at the begining and end SF 50 files

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:10/20/2001 6:45:07 PM

Hmmmm, definitely sounds pretty strange. Have you tried different drivers in the Options-preferences-wave(tab)? Maybe you are using the "microsoft sound mapper" driver? Try selecting different drivers to playback through and see if you get the same result on all drivers. I have a machine at work, I'm running 4.5 and 5.0 with win2k on it, and have not had this problem. Also, check to see if you have the DMA enabled on those drives you're playing back from. It might not hurt to reinstall your audio drivers in win2k also if nothing else works. I had a problem, where it was playing back my audio and everything sounded like the chipmunks. I then reinstalled my audio drivers and magically the problem went away.

And are you sure you removed the DC offset?....LOL...just kidding :-)

Brian Franz