If the loop property of an event is turned off, dragging the tail will cause the last frame of the untrimmed clip to be repeated, thus extending the event. Nothing will happen if you try to drag the head with looping turned off.

Yes, Bob, I agree - if you are looping.

I think Rory is talking about disabling Loop and repeating the first frame like when extending the tail and repeating the last frame - as a still. You can't - at least I can not.

Willem.

Although you could make a snapshot of the first frame and drop that image into the timeline, then stretch that out as long as necessary.

Another option is to use the velocity envelope held at 0%, then set to 100% when the head is done. That's kinda messy though.

That’s it guys like what Peter referred to as with hold on last frame, neat trick Grazie mentioned for end cut and I use it almost every day, something like that in reverse, is it possible?

The problem with a clip with no head room is that it starts BANG and the audience is thrown into the dialogue, before even getting to see who is yapping. J cut is ok = alt and drag if the dialog is concurrent but for a header you have to cut the start, copy, reverse it so that the image looks sort of natural before the dialog starts.

Maybe someone has a trick or two.

[b[Often guys doing interviews do not give enough head room ....[/b]

TEACH those guys to do it RIGHT!!

> I think Rory is talking about disabling Loop and repeating the first frame like when extending the tail and repeating the last frame - as a still. You can't - at least I can not.

I didn't know you can do it that way.

>Although you could make a snapshot of the first frame and drop that image into the timeline, then stretch that out as long as necessary.

That's how I've always done it at the back as well as the front. This way also lets you repeat a nice looking frame instead of the random last one where the person you are shooting may be looking off somewhere with their eyes half closed or something like that.

What I would like to see is, after trimming, you can drag the end and cause the end frame to repeat. It annoys me that you trim some rubbish off the end of an event, only to have it reappear in the transition you insert. Of course you should also be able to drag so that trimmed off material can be restored. Drag with say shift key pressed to cause frames to be repeated.

"The problem with a clip with no head room is that it starts BANG and the audience is thrown into the dialogue, before even getting to see who is yapping. J cut is ok = alt and drag if the dialog is concurrent but for a header you have to cut the start, copy, reverse it so that the image looks sort of natural before the dialog starts.

Get cameramen who know what they are doing.
If this has happened more than once something is wrong and it needs to be fixed at the source.
If the only competant person on a shoot is a cameraman it is his job to make the editors life easy. Every shot should be counted down to, he signals "action", he flags take / no take at the tail. Such things shot properly are a doodle to edit, it can be done faster than real time.

I've never been formally trained in any of this so it took me a while to figure out what the fingers in front of the lens at the end of every take were for. Took me a while to learn to direct talent and shoot for the edit. Now if they start talking before I give the signal I abort the take. If they jump up before I call "cut" same thing.

Bob.

I've shot hundreds of hours of interviews over the years and ALWAYS roll the camera at least 5 sec. (preferably more) before any questions start getting asked.
I also let my camera continue to roll for several seconds after the interview is "officially" done as I find that this is when a lot of really good comments come out.
If I'm really stuck as Rory is, then I'll look for some B roll that I can use to cover what would be an otherwise rough/bad/sloppy edit.

Mike

What if the flag is …. When the dog humps the tripod leg …..go.
I got this,….this morning. Lol.

OMG. I thought the shooters for one of our local TV stations were clueless (and a lot of them are) but this goes WAY beyond that.
How anyone could even think this is acceptable is beyond me :(

Mike

Part of the problem is that when shooting Celebs, it can be quite intimidating as you have managers and event coordinators running around putting you under pressure to be quick, I’ve been there. We are some sort of necessary evil, so they tolerate us for a while to get on to more important things. Don’t allow yourself to be rushed, go through the processes, set up, check, shoot. If you have messed it up just say …sorry I didn’t get that ..can we please do it again. Inexperienced guys are under the wrong impression that the top guys get it right first time all the time.

the lol for we was ..got that t shirt.

ALT+Drag Over Event moves the footage WITHIN the Event then drag backe end of Wven to notch. You've now got a piece of OUT at the front where you can fade-IN.

I use this heaps, instead of Trimmer, where I want my own krap vanished away.

Own the Setup>Check>Shoot I add my own lie. I say "We'll be going in 5-4-3-2....." when I've been rolling during that period already. Often I shout "we're going in 30 seconds" this peoples heads focussed nicely.

Try the Alt+Drag over, you get 2 pictures in the Preview for the price of 1!!

Cheers

Grazie

Often I shout "we're going in 30 seconds" this peoples heads focussed nicely.

I'm guessing that you roll at the same time too.
Nice trick, I mean technique, Grazie!!

Mike

I was handed a tape that a Sunday school teacher made of her kids reciting various lines of a play and she wanted me to edit out the bad parts. She had pressed the record button *AS* each of the pupils had started talking, so the first few words of each line were missing and the next few words were accompanied with rolling chroma bars. This was also back in the old analog days so there was no good way to get a clean edit starting at the very beginning of a source clip. The end result was that pretty much the first sentence of each child's part was gone.

Her response was, "well, if you could cut out the bad parts, i thought you could put back in the parts we wanted."

i always start rolling to speed BEFORE i say i'm rolling. so far it's worked (heck, tape's cheap, and card cheaper)

as for celebs, i've had to shoot a few in the past and if anyone has ever 'pushed/rushed' me i've simply said (very politely of course) that i'm here to make ???? look good, but if you want me to simply run and gun, i can do that to, but it ain't going to look as good.

many, many years ago i shot a 'news' interview with striesand. not only did her pa and stylist check the footage on the spot (a playback monitor was part of the stipulated equipment THEY required), they checked the edit before it went to air.

as for the op - if you ain't got it, you can't use it. i always shoot noddies, cutaways, etc., on every interview whether i'm likely to use them or not. better safe than sorry.

What are you all talking about? Missing material at beginning of clip? How can this be even possible?

Disclaimer: OnLocation user, with up to 35 seconds of pre-roll buffer.

"ALT+Drag Over Event moves the footage WITHIN the Event then drag backe end of Wven to notch. You've now got a piece of OUT at the front where you can fade-IN."

If you have trimmed the head (left edge) of an event, you can ALT-drag the clip within the event but only up to the head of the untrimmed clip. It won't move past it.

If you use an untimmed clip as an event, you can alt-drag the clip to the left and create some OUT at the front as you say, but you lose the start, which you may not want to do. Another way to achieve the same thing is to just drag the left edge to the right. Or press S to split near the head and delete the left bit.

What we want to be able to do is to create a handle for a transition by repeating the first frame of the clip (event) so that we don't lose any of the clip, for those (rare of course!) occasions when pre-roll was not used or was insufficient.

And i already gave two methods for that way up above. ;)

Okay, I thought scripting might be a solution to solving this conundrum. So I looked at the problem as an opportinity to dip my little toe into scripting.

First, my disclaimers:
1) I have very little idea what I'm doing. This is only my 2nd attempt at scripting, so this script could really mess up your project. Do not use it on any project that is not disposable.
2) I really struggled with the "rippling" of events and this version "ripples" all events on all tracks to the right of the first frame of the selected clip. That may-or-may-not be the best way to handle events to the right of the selected event.
3) Suggestions are welcome. However, if things get too complicated (i.e. I get too confused :), I may just abandon the project.
4) Snapshots are stored in your "My Pictures" folder, and they are always 5 seconds in length. Future enhancements may allow these to be user selectable.

All that said, here it is: SnapShotDLL.zip

...Jerry

Shot Jerry!! That is perfect as is, ran the script works great.

Thanks so much, really appreciate this, is there a way I can call the script snapshot head?