Vegas 11

Former user wrote on 9/9/2011, 10:11 AM
Well, someone had to start the thread. So...thoughts? GPU acceleration (which we already have in VP10), and a few other tweaks.

I'm thinking this is more of an incremental change. What's most interesting to me is the marketing: resist no more. It's all about switching to VP11. Hopefully this means the release is more stable (is ANY software actually totally stable?).

I'm looking forward to it, but will follow my usual upgrade process: buy the upgrade when cheap, keep using the working version I have now, and upgrade when I'm satisfied it's ready for prime time.

edit: I stand corrected...rolling shutter correction...for me, worth the price of admission (I'm bitter that CMOS sensors are so good for so cheap...except for rolling shutter).

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amendegw wrote on 9/9/2011, 10:47 AM
Vegas Pro 11

...Jerry

ps: kairosmatt deserves a "finder's fee" for discovering this. I guess this means no 10f

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robwood wrote on 9/9/2011, 10:48 AM
"I'm thinking this is more of an incremental change."

+1

don't see much to comment about so far; guess i wanna see what's on the "fixed" list first... still have some image-sequence problems when working in 32-bit float i'd like to see go away.
PLS wrote on 9/9/2011, 11:09 AM
At least they say "New! GPU-acceleration"... so hopefully it has been significantely improved over the current implementation.

"New! Enhanced image stabilization" looks interesting as does "New! Text tools", so I guess the ProType Titler has been improved... which is good news.

We will see!!!
Steve Mann wrote on 9/9/2011, 11:34 AM
I've been using Vegas for ten years and this is the first time I've seen a more than 30-day pre-release announcement. OTOH - fall begins in October.....

Since I am an early adopter, I will be one of the first in line to install it.
Laurence wrote on 9/9/2011, 11:47 AM
Well, there's always Vegas 9 to fall back on if there are initial growing pains.
Arthur.S wrote on 9/9/2011, 1:47 PM
I usually go for every other version, so I'm due the next upgrade. Vegas looks interesting enough, but boy is DVDA due a total revamp! How about Blu-ray pop up menus with sound for instance? Plus ALL of TLF's wish list and more!!
Steve Mann wrote on 9/9/2011, 3:16 PM
Blu-Ray pop-up menus are done in BD-J, or Blu-ray Disc Java. sony could, in theory, add some boilerplate BD-J options, but I doubt that you will see it in Vegas because of the licensing costs: BD-J JavaDocStubs License starts at $2500/year per seat.

Maybe that's one of the reasons for the $50,000 price tag on Sony Blu-Print.

From engadget:
"If you're interested in making Blu-ray discs like the big boys, Sony's own Blu-Print software is now available for the low, low price of $50,000 per license (there's also a 30-day free trial available if you really need a test-run first). Unfortunately they didn't note which codecs are available yet, but you can use the software to add all the BD-J interactive features and popup menus you could ever want."
ritsmer wrote on 9/9/2011, 3:19 PM
I edit AVCHD 2 (1080p at 28 Mbps) with Vegas pro 10.0e - several hours every day.
Cannot remember when it had its last serious hickup. It just works and works and ....

But as a newest-stuff-addict I will also be among the first to get -and enjoy- 11.
Steve Mann wrote on 9/9/2011, 3:23 PM
I'm going all the way and building a new editing PC.
Dan Sherman wrote on 9/9/2011, 3:28 PM
Settled on specs Steve?
I looking for a good deplate to build from.
Robert Johnston wrote on 9/9/2011, 3:51 PM
Sony needs to do a better job of marketing Vegas 11. What they've presented to me so far doesn't have me the least bit excited. In fact, it seems more like a burden.

Intel Core i7 10700K CPU @ 3.80GHz (to 4.65GHz), NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8GBytes. Memory 32 GBytes DDR4. Also Intel UHD Graphics 630. Mainboard: Dell Inc. PCI-Express 3.0 (8.0 GT/s) Comet Lake. Bench CPU Multi Thread: 5500.5 per CPU-Z.

Vegas Pro 21.0 (Build 108) with Mocha Vegas

Windows 11 not pro

Guy S. wrote on 9/9/2011, 3:56 PM
Love Vegas 10. Vegas 11 looks to have some really nice enhancements, and at the likely upgrade price I won't be resisting. So... Where does the line start?
John_Cline wrote on 9/9/2011, 3:59 PM
"GPU acceleration (which we already have in VP10), and a few other tweaks."

Previously, Vegas only used the GPU to accelerate the Sony AVC codec, Vegas 11 takes it much further.

"Take advantage of the power of the GPU for smoother video playback and faster rendering. Vegas Pro leverages the GPU for video FX, transitions, compositing, pan/crop, and track motion."
JJKizak wrote on 9/9/2011, 4:45 PM
When I saw the blue lines, pink sync for sound, Cinescore input, Forge input, rope a dope---short for loop a loop, burn DVD from timeline, third party super trick stuff, noise reduction in sound and video, second monitor, and about 40 million other things I was hooked. I will be in line for 11.
JJK
SStone wrote on 9/9/2011, 4:58 PM
Any chance they will add .flv & html5 export options? Can save me a few steps.
Ros wrote on 9/9/2011, 5:10 PM
Support for RAW photo files, wasn't expecting that, will be useful!

Rob
rmack350 wrote on 9/9/2011, 5:33 PM
Rob,

They give a link to the MS codec pack that supports RAW files. You can install that right now and Vegas 10 will accept a RAW file on the timeline.

Maybe the question here is whether Vegas11 would honor any of the development settings you might have made in Adobe Raw? And, of course, just because I say I can place one raw photo file on the VP10 timeline doesn't mean I can put a hundred on the timeline.

Rob
ushere wrote on 9/9/2011, 5:40 PM
must say i'm completely underwhelmed...

10 years on and STILL no edl functionality!?

interested to see what they've done with titling, would be really nice to have something i could understand rather than the mess that protype whatever turned out to be.

i am all for you early adopters reporting back ASAP ;-)
Ros wrote on 9/9/2011, 5:50 PM
- They give a link to the MS codec pack that supports RAW files. You can install that right now and Vegas 10 will accept a RAW file on the timeline



Thanks Rob, I had the codec pack installed weeks ago, which again I wasn't expecting and quite happy about because now I can see my DSLR thumbnails but didn't know that I could import raw files into Vegas 10. Might give it a try, but anyhow will be getting Vegas 11.

Thanks,

Rob
TheHappyFriar wrote on 9/9/2011, 5:53 PM
DVDA needs a multicore/CPU mpeg-2 encoder. That would make making DVD's a LOT easier.
farss wrote on 9/9/2011, 6:01 PM
"10 years on and STILL no edl functionality!?"

Agreed.
I was in a rather full on online suite two days ago. Quite an eye opener to see how nothing more than a simple human readable text file is all you need to define a feature film.

Tha paradigm has now been expanded to the Color Decision List (CDL). With the right and relatively cheap tools a basic grade can be done by anyone prior to the job being handed over to the guy with all the hardware for the final tweaks.

What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas hasn't changed. Still no timecoded audio it seems.

Bob.
Duncan H wrote on 9/9/2011, 6:03 PM
Here's hoping they have made PTT understandable & usable to mere mortals, then again, maybe it's just me that lacks the intellectual firepower to achieve even the most basic task with (what I find to be a truly confounding) element within Vegas.
Duncan
Dan Sherman wrote on 9/9/2011, 6:24 PM
What's edi?
Steve Mann wrote on 9/9/2011, 6:48 PM
"DVDA needs a multicore/CPU mpeg-2 encoder. That would make making DVD's a LOT easier."

Encode it right in Vegas and DVDA shouldn't have to re-encode.