What is the difference between

Mokondzi wrote on 8/21/2011, 9:12 PM
Hi, I want to know if there is a difference between "Sony Vegas pro 10" and it predecessor "Sonic foundry Vegas 4.0" as far as the technology used to build the application is concerned.

Did Sony change the technology behind the interface after buying Sonic Foundry?

What are the major differences between "Sony Vegas pro 10 and Sonic Foundry Vegas 4.0"?

A friend of mine feels like since Sony did not start with the Vegas pro, acid pro, sound forge pro, software’s and merely bought it from another company, these softwares do not have Sony Ingenuity in it.

Thanks for the info you will provide

Comments

john_dennis wrote on 8/21/2011, 9:27 PM
Completely different universe, aside from ownership of the company.
Chienworks wrote on 8/21/2011, 9:30 PM
I've seen the software "ingenuity" directly from Sony, and it's awful.

Sonic Foundry's stuff is about as opposite from lame as you can get.

As far as your friend is concerned, if he's not willing to give it a try himself, let him wallow in his ignorance.
TheHappyFriar wrote on 8/21/2011, 9:35 PM
Vegas 10 supports an alternative plugin API if you're interested. You can still use the old one if you want.

That's the biggest software change I can think of.
Mokondzi wrote on 8/21/2011, 9:48 PM

Hi, The hapyFriar,

Thanks for the info! What do you mean by "if you interested"? And “you can still use the old one if you want"?

I didn't really understand that clearly.

Thanks for your input
Mokondzi wrote on 8/21/2011, 9:50 PM
Hi John,


Can you elaborate more on completely different universe?

Thanks

TheHappyFriar wrote on 8/21/2011, 10:17 PM
Thanks for the info! What do you mean by "if you interested"? And “you can still use the old one if you want"?

If you want to develop a plugin using the old DirectX system that's always been around, you can do that. If you want to use the newly supported OFX system that has some more flexibility and it multi-editor compatible, you can.
Geoff_Wood wrote on 8/21/2011, 10:42 PM
Sony bought Sonic Foundry. And the much of the staff (and premises ?) just carried on, presumably with increased resources.

Any differences between 10 and 4 are evolutionary. 6 worth of evolutionary.

If somebody feels the need for the differences to be demonstrated, simply download each and compare away.

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/download/updates/vegasfamily

geoff

geoff
Grazie wrote on 8/22/2011, 12:45 AM
I'm not clear as to why you are asking the question? So, why are you asking such a technical/egineer question here. All we can say is how it "works" on actual projects. And with respect to my colleagues here, that's ALL we could really say. If you want to get REAL chapter end verse you'd need to go to the engineers. But again, I'm guessing you'd expect that. So again, why are you asking that question here, on a Users Forum? Where you'd be getting workflow/anecdotal experiences, and not a scientific, engineers view. Sure, there are many many IT brains here that can give "views" but, I think I'm correct here, unless somebody here is capable of interrogating the code, which would be a questionable and dodgy thing to do anyway, all bets are off.

I'd suggest, if you want this level of knowledge, then write directly to SONY.

Cheers

Grazie

PeterDuke wrote on 8/22/2011, 2:30 AM
There was a time when I thought Sony hardware was tops, but now I think it is just one of several good manufacturers. Being good at hardware doesn't necessarily equate to good at software, however. I don't use any software that I can think of that was clearly developed by Sony from inception, so I can't really comment, but I have no reason to think that their software would be better than anyone else's.

In similar vein, I have had some good hardware products from Hewlett Packard over the years, but often felt that the software apps or drivers bundled with them left something to be desired. To some extent this may reflect my engineering background, where I like a button to be labeled according to what it does, rather than what you want to do. For example I would like to be able to set a scanner resolution as so many dots per inch rather than that I want to send a fax or print a 6"x4" photo and have the software work out the "best" resolution for me.

Afterthought
Sony must have thought that Sonic Foundry sofware was better than anything they could produce in a reasonable timeframe else they wouldn't have bought the company.
PeterWright wrote on 8/22/2011, 3:45 AM
If you are after "ammunition" to rebuke your friend, here's some.
Sonic Foundry's "ingenuity" was way ahead of anything Sony had - they liked the razor so much they bought the company.

Each new version has added new functionality and features - this is all listed information - and many other Editing programs, including Final Cut Pro, are still catching up in many respects.

Your friend's feelings may turn out not to be soundly based.
Mokondzi wrote on 8/22/2011, 6:13 AM
@Grazie,

thanks for the info
Mokondzi wrote on 8/22/2011, 6:18 AM
@Geoff_Wood, Thanks for the helpful information you provided. can we say those evolution are Sony Ingenuity?
Chienworks wrote on 8/22/2011, 6:53 AM
Sony Creative Software may be a wholly owned subsidiary of Sony Corporate, but the impression most of us get here is that they've been left alone with a mandate to continue to improve the product (well, probably a more correct statement might be a mandate to make the product continue to be profitable), whilst being mostly left alone. Other than the name "Sony", there probably isn't much of anything about Sony at all in any of the software.

This is purely my own opinion, of course.

Still, the best thing your friend can do is to stop speculating and try the free demos.
Geoff_Wood wrote on 8/22/2011, 3:54 PM
I believe so (certainly wrt PCH and ???), but augmented with other human resources due to the increased 'backing', maybe ;-).

geoff