Subject:can't hear sound while overdubbing acid mus studio

Posted by: zen5q

Date:8/13/2011 6:38:31 AM

Help, I just bought acid music studio and am trying to record my guitar over some drum tracks. The meters show the guitar coming in, when i record something on a track and play it back the guitar sound is there, but I cannot hear my guitar no matter what I do during recording??? what gives, this works fine with other recording programs I have such as studio one by presonus. If I can't preview my guitar to practice over prerecorded tracks, it's kinda pointless to use the software... I use guitarRig mobile usb I/O, which has worked flawlessly with other apps.
HELP

Subject:RE: can't hear sound while overdubbing acid mus studio

Reply by: pwppch

Date:8/13/2011 12:28:42 PM

ACID Music Studio does not support software input monitoring. ACID Pro does. You will have to monitor externally with Music Studio.

Peter

Subject:RE: can't hear sound while overdubbing acid mus studio

Reply by: zen5q

Date:8/14/2011 7:13:48 AM

are you joking?? what good is a "music studio" that doesn't allow input monitoring? I want a refund...

Subject:RE: can't hear sound while overdubbing acid mus studio

Reply by: pwppch

Date:8/14/2011 11:50:31 AM

No reason to joke about it. The product comparison indicates what features each version has.

I can't help you with a refund. You should contact customer service.

Peter

Subject:RE: can't hear sound while overdubbing acid mus studio

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:8/15/2011 12:05:30 PM

Just an FYI: If you're not looking for real-time effects on your signal, your hardware should handle the monitoring while recording just fine; most "prosumer"-level audio interfaces handle this with aplomb.

Iacobus

Subject:RE: can't hear sound while overdubbing acid mus studio

Reply by: Geoff_Wood

Date:8/15/2011 4:45:21 PM

Most people use hardware input monitoring.

geoff

Subject:RE: can't hear sound while overdubbing acid mus studio

Reply by: zen5q

Date:8/17/2011 1:32:37 PM

No, the product comparison does not indicate which features each version has. Yes, it does say that you can monitor the input signal via a visual meter, but it days absolutely nothing about the fact that previewing the input sound is not available. That's like saying you can drive a car in the dark, absolutely,,, oh but it has no lights, for lights you have to buy the real expensive model. This is the first Sony music product I've bought and will the last $65 dollars down the drain. I can't use this to record.
And as far as monitoring with hardware, that's completely pointless if any real-time effects are used (which in the real recording world is ... lets see...ALL THE TIME) get real...that is not an option for a program that has a name like Music Studio with a guitar on the front...totally lame

Subject:RE: can't hear sound while overdubbing acid mus studio

Reply by: zen5q

Date:8/17/2011 1:38:14 PM

Not sure what planet you live on, but NO most people don't.

Monitoring with hardware for this piece of software is completely pointless. If any real-time effects are used (which in the real recording world is ... lets see...ALL THE TIME) then all you're previewing with hardware is the dry signal. That does you absolutely no good at all.

This is a major flaw with this supposed music recording studio. It should be stated clearly in the description that input monitoring is only possible with hardware and any real-time effects will not be monitored. Knowing that would have saved me from throwing $65 dollars out the window. Thanks Sony!

Subject:RE: can't hear sound while overdubbing acid mus studio

Reply by: Geoff_Wood

Date:8/17/2011 4:24:34 PM

Oddly is seems that thousands of other users haven't seemed to find this a problem.

Maybe you really needed AcidPro. FWIW I use AcidPro with hardware monitoring despite AP7 Input Monitoring being available. I feel absolutely to need to hear takes with FX applied during tracking. But that's my workflow and YMMV.

geoff

Subject:RE: can't hear sound while overdubbing acid mus studio

Reply by: sodbuster-ca

Date:8/17/2011 5:05:29 PM

"No, the product comparison does not indicate which features each version has..."

zen5q

Sure it does. Please see the following link:

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/musicstudio/compare

If you look down towards the middle of the page, under the heading of "Mixing and Editing", you'll see a line called "Record Input Monitoring" (13 lines down).

"...Monitoring with hardware for this piece of software is completely pointless..."

zen5q

What you gain from Hardware Input Monitoring is something that is very important to descerning musicians...its called "zero latency"! You can also gain input monitoring with FX, if the device has on-baord DSP. Zero latency input monitoring WITH FX is not pointless...at least not, for the descerning musician.

Virtually all professional DAWS offer "low latency" input monitoring via software. They do this by offering very small buffer sizes, such as 128 & even 64.

Some musicians can hear latency even when the buffer is set to 64. So, input monitoring via hardware is superior AND necessary (to some) for any level of DAW.

Subject:RE: can't hear sound while overdubbing acid mus studio

Reply by: pwppch

Date:8/17/2011 5:11:37 PM

Not to be argumentative, but the product comparison does indicate this under

Mixing and Editing: Record input monitoring

You should contact our sales support group. They may be able to help you.

I will also bring this issue up at our next engineering Music Studio discussion.

Peter

Subject:RE: can't hear sound while overdubbing acid mus studio

Reply by: zen5q

Date:8/18/2011 11:23:17 AM

Yes, I should have read the description more carefully, my fault. I just read all the great things on the home page that talked about support for vst and plugins you can use etc. which made me think, 'hey I can record with effects, cool' not thinking that i would not actually be able to hear the effects that sony offered until playback....
Again as far as using input monitoring is concerned, and I am a 'discerning musician' thanks for the jab, you write:
You can also gain input monitoring with FX, if the device has on-baord DSP
First off there is the - IF - the device has on-baord DSP, so without DSP there is no FX monitoring.
you say hardware monitoring is superior, well why does the PRO version of this software ACID Pro, offer software monitoring then?? You'd think the 'pros' would all be using the 'superior' hardware option....hmmm
This piece of software is just a lame excuse for Sony to get more money by having people upgrade to Acid PRO.
It's not that difficult to add software monitoring into a software, lots of cheaper daws have it, so why not your MUSIC STUDIO? At least then you would have a choice. Me, the 'undiscerning' musician could happily record with software monitoring and the 'real' musician could use hardware. seems like a great compromise.
Ok, see you all, I'm going back to using my old software which does not have the ease of use and features as your studio, but was cheaper but at least offers software input monitoring.

Subject:RE: can't hear sound while overdubbing acid mus studio

Reply by: 5inusoid

Date:8/29/2011 9:41:34 PM

Well, I just picked up Acid Music Studio a week ago. I had owned Acid Pro 4.0 when it was new (2003?) and have been fooling around with with DAWs I havent used in a while for nostalgia/inspiration purposes after getting disenchanted with Live.

Firstly, it is VERY apparent there is no input monitoring in Acid Studio. This is one of the first things I checked before purchasing, as I play live instruments. It didn't really bother me, as I have a Zoom multi-effect/audio I/O that has monitoring and effects.

Secondly, $65? Really? Its like $30 on Amazon right now. I got it for $34 w/free shipping on eBay 'cause I had extra Paypal money kicking around.

Seriously, I'm sorry you feel you got burned, but it's not really that much money for what you get (it is pretty full-featured considering), and you really should have researched it before pulling the trigger.