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Subject:Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Posted by: ClipMan
Date:6/2/2011 4:04:30 PM

Looking forward to the next version. Acid 7 Pro runs fine but I want 8. Let's go, guys. Quit goofing around and put it out already. Feels like it's been twenty years since the last release. :-)

Brian

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: Rickms
Date:6/6/2011 1:10:31 PM

It is possible it may be that long between releases. Sony is so far behind the competition not sure it is worth the effort. It would be nice though to see a new version.

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: ClipMan
Date:6/6/2011 1:38:59 PM

"Sony is so far behind the competition"

Not that far. In fact, some of the sexier apps like sonar X1 and others are just catching up to Acid in some areas. In others, it's their sexier/easier implementation of what Acid already does that gets users drooling. It's time to put SonyPCH to work on the night shift to get this done. Great sound engineers, all of them. Maybe if we offer a sacrifice, we'd get things moving. :-)

Brian

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: Geoff_Wood
Date:6/6/2011 9:40:20 PM

Do you want a new version for some new functionality (specify ?), a new workflow, a new GUI, a new colour scheme, or what ?

I'm hangin' out for Acid 9 myself.... ;-)

geoff

Message last edited on6/6/2011 9:41:16 PM byGeoff_Wood.
Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: ClipMan
Date:6/7/2011 9:28:01 AM

"Do you want a new version for some new functionality"

No, I just want to be amazed at what they come up with. Not that I'm not already amazed at what they've done so far. But I need to be freshly amazed all over again. As I mentioned, the current version does all I need but so what? I'm ready for the next plateau. I can hardly wait. Doesn't anyone get excited about a new release anymore? So sad. So, to summarize: I WANT IT NOW! Let's go team!

Brian

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: ClipMan
Date:6/22/2011 4:24:35 PM

I happened to be walking by the forums and just stopped in to find out if the new Acid release was out yet. Obviously not. Look, don't make me come over there and compile the code and shrink-wrap the boxes for you. It's not fair to the users. Let's go, gentlemen. Time to kick it up a notch and bring this baby to market. I have a boatload of cheap and buggy third-party VSTs ready to test on the new release. Bring it on!

Brian

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: The Farm-Assist
Date:7/12/2011 7:27:50 PM

What exactly is Sonar just catching up with? Acid has no sampler. Acid has no "decent" plug-ins included with it. The best thing bundled with acid's pro version is what is essentially a demo version of NI's Guitar Rig, as NI Guitar Combos. You can't route any midi data to VST plug-ins. You can't run any decent sidechaining in acid. If you add more than a few plugins, it "encounters a serious error and must close." I'm really not sure what you're talking about, but Sony isn't getting another dime of mine unless they can bring forth a product that lives up to the "Professional Digital Audio Workstation" that they advertise. Even then, I probably still won't buy it. I got sick of waiting for them to get their crap together and demo'd another DAW, and was in awe at what it could do. I thought Acid was a wonderful (if a bit buggy) DAW up until that point. Once I saw what the competition was doing, I was utterly offended by the way they have continued to market a product that has very little difference between versions 5 and 7...

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: ClipMan
Date:7/12/2011 8:09:20 PM

"Acid has no sampler"

Yes, isn't that great? I wouldn't know what to do with it even if they put it in. Midi too doesn't inspire me. Don't play any instruments. Can't even play the radio. But when it comes to laying down a loop based percussion track and recording my buddy blowing sax to a click track in the recording studio, nothing comes close to Acid for speed, quality, simplicity and efficiency. It's all about the way you create your music. I sure hope they don't mess with any of that. If they turn Acid into another Sonar, I would probably freak out. But hey, to each his own. Best of luck with your new DAW.

Brian

Message last edited on7/12/2011 8:14:28 PM byClipMan.
Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: kbruff
Date:7/17/2011 7:56:49 AM

Some desired features...

Control pluggins through midi triggering
Automation lanes
Arranger track
Improved editing (highlight sections) and render to a new track



Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: Chienworks
Date:7/17/2011 9:25:41 PM

Brian, i think you summarize something very important there. Lots of folks seem to expect ACID to be able to do Y and Z, when it's intended to do X, and see that as a shortfall. They never seem to understand that it performs X remarkably well for large numbers of people.

I don't have a lot of use for ACID, but every once in a while a need for some background soundtrack comes up. I can select a bunch of loops with the right mood, dump them on the tracks, and mix them up to quickly produce something moving that fits the need perfectly. ACID is the dream tool of choice for this.

On the other hand, the vast majority of my audio work involves recording live performances, doing some small necessary cleaning up and trimming, and producing finished CDs and MP3 files. For smaller and simpler events Sound Forge rocks my world. For more complicated projects Vegas comes in somewhere between handy and essential. I wouldn't even dream of using ACID for these because Vegas and Sound Forge just do the job without all the complications ACID brings in. For free-format recording ACID's style of looping and defined measures and beats is unnecessary and gets in the way. True, you can minimize the effects of this, by why bother when Vegas is already there and works that way?

I still find the major distinction between them is that ACID is the tool for creating new music, while Vegas is the tool for editing existing music. Knowing what a tool is for and what it does well is a very important part of any craft. Trying to force a tool to do a different job, while it can sometimes be usefully creative, is usually just inviting problems.

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: ClipMan
Date:7/18/2011 6:38:41 AM

"Lots of folks seem to expect ACID to be able to do Y and Z"

Quite true. And you can't blame them for wanting twenty oscillators with fifty knobs to create and shape their sounds. But you know what? I don't want to spend time shaping synthetic sounds. The loops I have sound good the way they are or I wouldn't buy or create them. What I need is a fast way to get these clips synced to the beat and pitch of the piece I'm doing. This is where Acid excels. No other DAW comes close. What I'm looking for in a new release is ways to make this aspect of music production even easier. Better beatmapping and user-friendly pitch controls is where it's at for me. And talking about voice pitch controls, I remember a post a while back requesting a Melodyne-like way to do this in Acid. Another poster chimed in suggesting users should get people into the studio who can sing consistently on key. Sure, like I'm going to save up my allowance and hire Aretha Franklin or Pavarotti to do my stuff. Had a good laugh. I think it was Geoff Woods who made the suggestion. Great guy and very helpful to this forum but he lives on Mars :-) Anyway, making music with Acid is a rush.

Brian

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:7/18/2011 11:04:44 AM

I'm not even sure people know that ACID didn't have any MIDI playback capabilities minus the external MIDI sync it's always had prior to, what, version 3? (And even then, it was just MIDI playback at first and no soft synths, etc.) It was primarily digital audio.

Needless to say, it's come a long way.

With that said, I've expanded into MIDI if only to augment my existing workflow. Digital audio still rules and unless I have a clone that can play my guitar tracks, it's going to stay that way.

I still love Sound Forge because, as the name implies, you are able to shape and mold audio to your liking.

Iacobus

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: ClipMan
Date:7/18/2011 12:19:18 PM

"a clone that can play my guitar tracks"

I know what you mean. I used to record live drums. I'm sure there are drummers out there who perform really great, believe in punctuality, are not substance abusers and who can maintain a tempo over two bars. But I have yet to find one. Drum loops saved me from that madness. Then I cloned a bass player. Several, in fact. Really great talent on two-second clips for three bucks and in any key you desire and I don't have to supply beer. Some folks would miss the comaraderie of live bass and drum recording. Certainly not me. But I still believe great melodies require lead instruments recorded live. The part I don't understand is how some folks will spend a lot of money and an unreasonable amount of time to make a sawtooth sine wave sound like a kick drum or a flute when you could download the real thing probably for free. But what do I know? I'm just a geezer messing with music. Total joy.

Brian

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: feign
Date:7/18/2011 6:25:17 PM

I'm totally with Brian. Better beatmapping and user-friendly Melodyne-style pitch controls would be my top two wishes for an Acid update.

Lately I'm working with some amateur musicians' recordings, in which the tempo tends to change every few measures. Currently it's possible *in theory* to correct the tempo throughout, using beatmapping, chopper and more, but it's a major pain in the tush, more than it ought to be. Seems that Acid could be the ideal software for this, but I end up going back to trusty old Audition 1.5 for that. Then Acid is the bee's knees for laying other instruments onto the original tracks.

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: AnthonyTower
Date:7/19/2011 10:05:22 PM

..."I'm totally with Brian. Better beatmapping and user-friendly Melodyne-style pitch controls would be my top two wishes for an Acid update."...

Those are pretty much the two biggest issues along with native 64 bit support.

We don't need another DAW, there are tons of very good ones already out there.
If anything, I'd rather see SONY port more DAW features into VEGAS (ironically VEGAS started it's life as a DAW but grew into a non-linear video editing software).
With just bare-bones MIDI support, VEGAS no longer qualifies as a DAW anymore.

I certainly hope marketing doesn't pressure the ACID Pro team into dumbing it down like Apple did with FCP.

Cheers

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: AnthonyTower
Date:8/2/2011 9:52:41 PM

Seeing that ACID Pro is based on .NET, why not make it scriptable like the rest of the family...
i.e being able to use a language like JScript in order to take the chore out of doing repetitive edits and so forth.
Cheers

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: pwppch
Date:8/3/2011 5:00:54 PM

ACID Pro is not based on .NET. It has a couple of .NET Parts, but in general it has little dependency on it.

Peter

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: AnthonyTower
Date:8/3/2011 5:34:26 PM

Thank you for clearing that up for me Peter!

How about just releasing an API for ACID then?
Nothing too fancy, no need for a full blown SDK.

If that ever gets on your to-do-list and knowing now you don't rely on .NET technology how about making the API language independent...I'd prefer using something like Python anyways.

'might be asking for too much...
Cheers

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: ozzborn
Date:8/3/2011 6:05:54 PM

I really hope you guys consider doing a Mac osx version.

Acid is the only reason i have a pc.

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: pwppch
Date:8/4/2011 2:26:18 AM

No problem.

If ACID were to expose scripting, it would be based on an exported .NET assembly approach, similar to what we expose for Vegas and Forge.

You should submit a feature request.

Peter

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: AnthonyTower
Date:8/4/2011 9:26:51 PM

Done!

While we're at it, how about adding better integration with Vegas (i.e. the ability to open an ACID Pro 8 project in Vegas 10 or 11) with or without the ability to bring it back into ACID Pro once you're done in Vegas.
Cheers

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: the_curtis_man
Date:8/4/2011 11:04:54 PM

I'm tired of having to keep my Windows partition just because Acid doesn't have an option to install on Mac OS X. Meanwhile, all of the other programs I use install on Windows AND Mac. I'm not trying to insult Sony, I would just like to finally be free of booting into Windows. There are certain features Acid Pro does that I can't do so easily in other programs.

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: ClipMan
Date:8/5/2011 2:43:58 PM

Still no signs of life. I hope they're not in the middle of porting the code for the Xbox. Just fooling, folks. I'm sure the release is just a hop, skip and jump away. It's just that I hate stalling on requests from Howard Shore and the Rolling Stones for new material. I need Acid Pro 8 for that. Let's go guys, I've got committments.

Brian


Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: Lavoll
Date:8/8/2011 11:54:03 AM

what acid has is maybe the best and most quick and fun timeline behaviour.. but a notch or three more stability would be nice :)

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: ClipMan
Date:8/22/2011 6:15:04 PM

Still no luck. Don't see a sign of Acid 8 Pro anywhere. I'm told that Sony likes to bring new products to market at important consumer events, If so, they already missed the Running Of The Bulls in Spain. Maybe they're waiting for a solar eclipse. It's time to boogie, SonyPCH. Let's get this show on the road.

Brian


Message last edited on8/22/2011 6:16:40 PM byClipMan.
Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: ClipMan
Date:9/6/2011 2:58:20 PM

The global financial system is bankrupt, the world is on the brink of war and Acid 8 Pro still isn't ready. I was hoping we would have one more version before the total collapse of civilization. It appears this is not the case.

Brian

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: pwppch
Date:9/6/2011 6:48:12 PM

@Clipman

ROFL

Peter

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: Spectralis
Date:9/10/2011 2:37:12 AM

ACID 8 will need much better midi implementation and better looping tools. Fruity Loops has a Melodyne like transpose tool and Reaper and Sonar blow ACID's midi specs out of the water.

It's all very well if some of you only use ACID for looping audio now and again but some of us use it much more comprehensively. If you just need a looping tool and no midi/vsti support then there are an abundance of cheap entry level looping tools, including an ACID version. Those of us who need full DAW facilities and bought into ACID *PRO* to have this want the lack of proper midi/VSTi implementation fixed and looping tools that are on par with modern DAWS. Of course we need proper sampling tools in a so-called "PRO" product - no one expects Vegas Pro to come without proper DVD/Bluray authoring tools do they? An update will hopefully be an improvement not a regression to an earlier version.


Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: pwppch
Date:9/10/2011 8:42:25 AM

Can you be specific wrt MIDI?

What do you need to do that you can't?

Give me 5 things you need/want in ACID's MIDI workflow.

Peter

Message last edited on9/10/2011 8:43:26 AM bypwppch.
Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: ClipMan
Date:9/10/2011 10:14:36 AM

"some of you only use ACID for looping audio"

Yes, some of us bought a hard core looping program to create looped music compositions. Imagine that. You are inferring that extra functionality makes you a more talented musician/composer/arranger or even makes your music sound "better". It is a fact that the music people most enjoy, remember and hum to themselves consists of the simplest of melodies and uncluttered arrangements. But I agree with you. Being an 'entry level' user myself, it is time to upgrade my Fisher-Price plastic microphone.

Brian

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: Spectralis
Date:9/10/2011 11:15:48 AM

What I'm "inferring" is that if you're only interested in the looping tools then so be it but a lot of ACID Pro users like me use the midi/vsti tools so we expect them to work properly. My point is that even basic looping tools costing a fraction of ACID Pro can now do what it does and more so unless Sony drop the price or up the ante with the next version then it's not worth the upgrade price. Most so-called "Pro" DAWS have very comprehensive midi/vsti specs and ACID Pro should be at the same level of capability. As a long time ACID Pro user when anyone treats my concerns as irrelevant I'm going to challenge that. What mine or your musical capabilities are is besides the point but my advice is to ditch Fisher-Price.

Message last edited on9/10/2011 11:26:23 AM bySpectralis.
Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: Spectralis
Date:9/10/2011 11:38:50 AM

"Give me 5 things you need/want in ACID's MIDI workflow."

You know Peter it worries me that after countless threads in this forum requesting improvements you have to ask this question. This pretty much sums it up:

"What exactly is Sonar just catching up with? Acid has no sampler. Acid has no "decent" plug-ins included with it. The best thing bundled with acid's pro version is what is essentially a demo version of NI's Guitar Rig, as NI Guitar Combos. You can't route any midi data to VST plug-ins. You can't run any decent sidechaining in acid. If you add more than a few plugins, it "encounters a serious error and must close." I'm really not sure what you're talking about, but Sony isn't getting another dime of mine unless they can bring forth a product that lives up to the "Professional Digital Audio Workstation" that they advertise. Even then, I probably still won't buy it. I got sick of waiting for them to get their crap together and demo'd another DAW, and was in awe at what it could do. I thought Acid was a wonderful (if a bit buggy) DAW up until that point. Once I saw what the competition was doing, I was utterly offended by the way they have continued to market a product that has very little difference between versions 5 and 7..."

If the Sony ACID Pro team need any further inspiration go check out some of the competition like Reaper ($60), Sonar, FL Studio and Studio One. I notice that Sony Vegas is catching up with Adobe and AVID with OFX and GPU support. Three years down the line I'd like to see a similar resurrection with ACID Pro please.


Message last edited on9/10/2011 11:39:44 AM bySpectralis.
Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: ClipMan
Date:9/10/2011 11:43:03 AM

"Most so-called "Pro" DAWS have very comprehensive midi/vsti specs and ACID Pro should be at the same level of capability"

Yes, but not necessarily in that direction. For me, it would be unacceptable if the "inventor" of looped music creation did NOT have the most sophisticated beat-mapping algorithms, pitch controls and slice production routines out there. Surely, these areas should be the benchmark for Acid rather than how it stacks up against other forms of music creation. And I can't ditch the Fisher-Price microphone until my dad raises my allowance.

Brian

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: Spectralis
Date:9/10/2011 12:03:01 PM

But it's looping capabilities aren't anything special any longer. Other much lower priced DAWS offer the same or more features. I haven't even mentioned Ableton because to do so would only embarrass Sony.

ACID Pro is advertised as a professional DAW offering looping, midi and vst/vsti capabilities. A visit to the KVR forums will confirm that these features are taken for granted now days. If it's going to compete in any of these areas then it must improve with the next upgrade or face oblivion (if that's not happened already.) I now use Reaper which has become much more versatile than ACID. I still prefer the ACID interface but the only reason I'd come back to ACID is if it improves significantly with the next upgrade.

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: ClipMan
Date:9/10/2011 12:26:21 PM

"But it's looping capabilities aren't anything special any longer."

True, but they are very special to me. After nine years, I finally know how to use 30% of the functions. Half that time was learning why 80:1 compression ratios make my music sound weird. Since you mentioned Abelton, I tried making a loop in it. After twelve days, I gave up. Let's face it. As you get older, learning new stuff is a chore. But I understand where you're coming from. Let Sony put any of the stuff you want in the program but WITHOUT dropping major advances to the core functionality of loop-based music creation.

Brian

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: pwppch
Date:9/10/2011 3:28:15 PM

Ok, sorry I upset you. I will stay out of it.

Peter

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: Spectralis
Date:9/11/2011 12:12:36 AM

"Let Sony put any of the stuff you want in the program but WITHOUT dropping major advances to the core functionality of loop-based music creation."

I really hope they don't change the core functionality or the interface/gui either because that's what I really miss about ACID. I'm sure there can be a compromise between different needs. I use Paintshop Pro which has tabs for different workspaces so that users can customise how it looks. Perhaps a new version of ACID could offer something similar so that users can keep it purely loop based if necessary. Although v7 works very well in terms of its interface already I think.

Peter, I'm sorry if I upset you but my response is due to frustration with Sony for the long wait for a new version - that's if there's going to be one. On a more constructive note perhaps the Sony ACID team could spend some time reading through some of the suggestions for improvements on this forum if they haven't done so already. I really can't express the regret that I myself and many I've spoken to on different audio forums who used to use ACID Pro have that it's no longer is being developed.

In contrast, Vegas Pro is fantastic and has developed in leaps and bounds. It's frustrating to see Sony get Vegas so right yet leave ACID languishing behind. I don't think a merge of the two programs would work because then the loop orientated interface of ACID might get lost. Although it would be great to have full midi/vsti functionality in Vegas.

I really hope we one day see a new version of ACID that suits everyone's needs.


Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: ClipMan
Date:9/11/2011 10:07:56 AM

"frustrating to see Sony get Vegas so right yet leave ACID languishing behind"

On this, we agree. They had the nerve to announce Vegas 11 without a mention of Acid. How rude. It makes you want to head down to Wisconsin and demonstrate in front of their offices carrying signs saying RELEASE ACID NOW! But you know what? I'm irresistibly drawn to the conclusion that we may be the only two people left on the planet using the software and two upgrades bring only $398 to split between ten thousand Sony employees. If we could get five more users to clamor for a new release, it may be worth their development time. One good sign is that there's still an Acid forum. But it could be that they only left it up so they could laugh and giggle at feature requests while they go about releasing other products. Just fooling. I know they won't let Acid die. But if you see the program bundled with shaving cream, you know there's trouble brewing.

Brian


Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: kbruff
Date:9/13/2011 8:42:42 AM

From my perspective, the problem is too many DAWS out there can do what ACID does very well. It almost makes using ACID completely optional, since there are no hard discriminators to draw you to the application.

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: ClipMan
Date:9/13/2011 11:23:23 AM

" too many DAWS out there can do what ACID does very well"

Perhaps this is true but you would have to dig through several dialog boxes, menu items and adjust preference and screen settings to get there. The beauty of Acid is that it presents it's loop based interface on start-up. It's 'ready-to-go'. No clutter and no obstacles to creating music. I've tried and dropped many other DAWs because they were 'everything' applications and presented a dizzying array of options resulting in information overload. Basically, you have to 'program' these DAWs to get where you want to go. That may be cool for some but I don't want to fight their interface to get to where I want to go. What it all boils down to is that DAWs are simply tools to produce music. The simpler the tool, the better the experience. And there's another factor to consider. Where are 'everything' DAW's headed? Look what Adobe did to Audition. In order to target a specific market niche, they dropped many basic features in their 'new' release. It's the first time I've seen a downgrade offered as an upgrade. Go figure.

Brian

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: kbruff
Date:9/13/2011 2:33:33 PM

I hear yah, in a years period I have easily produced tons of loop based music in my other daws without even turning on ACID. The process is pain free and vey scalable, but I still love ACID.

Once you get the hang of some these other daws it really is a breeze.

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: ClipMan
Date:9/13/2011 7:57:11 PM

"Once you get the hang of some these other daws it really is a breeze."

Yes, this is certainly true. But the issue here is motivation. Why would you want to spend weeks or months figuring out all over again how to do the same job you were already doing in your current DAW? It's obvious that some people revel in learning new programs and interfaces. Me, I'd rather poke my eyeball out with a soup spoon than sit in front of a new program trying to figure out where the music goes. Doesn't the amount of time, money and effort expended in learning Acid have any value? I thought the whole point of the exercise was to take the time required to learn the tool so you could set yourself free to concentrate on the pure joy of creating music. On the other hand, you can argue that Acid no longer has the features you require to make music the way you want to. In this case, moving to one that does certainly makes sense. If this happened to me, it would mean that I was unhappy with my current music creations and Acid was an obstacle. For me, this is not the case. All I look for in a new release are ways to make this tool even simpler to use.

Brian

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: kbruff
Date:9/13/2011 8:30:04 PM

ok pal / i understand your position / enjoy making music in acid / were bothing waiting to see what good things will come in the future

Message last edited on9/14/2011 7:45:41 AM bykbruff.
Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: guitacid
Date:9/14/2011 2:17:13 AM


I'm with you Clipman. I'm enjoying your posts. Lots o' giggles.

Acid was the DAW I chose all those years ago and I'm just plain used to it. My focus is tracking guitars and then enhancing with loops. As a music making tool Acid is consistently good. Whereas me, as a music making human, is sometimes good and sometimes horrendous! It's not Acid's fault. I'm more concerned about my creative output than I am about Acid's lack of this or that. Hopefully Sony do get around to adding more pro-user features but at the same time it's core functionality is well suited to cranking out those compositions.

psssst...Sony! Don't stop making it.

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: ClipMan
Date:9/14/2011 8:49:27 AM

"sometimes good and sometimes horrendous!"

Tell me about it. I remember my first ACID 'composition'. It had 27 tracks of clipping drums. The wave form was one solid block down to the sample level. But you know what? I listened to it for days. Thought it was great. Then my musician buddy slapped me and told me to put the mouse down and step away from the computer. Then I went through a mind-numbing 'trance' phase where I was putting a single three note loop on the timeline and playing it six hundred times until another buddy said he wanted to chew his leg off. Over the years though, it was the ACID, VEGAS and FORGE forums that taught me the program and about making music in general. Great bunch of guys. Great learning experience.

Brian

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: kitekrazee
Date:10/1/2011 2:59:39 AM

This is like being at the Ableton forums. People believe Ableton is going to go broke because there is no version 9.

If I only had one request it would be don't change the GUI. I have AP7, Vegas and Soundforge. I love the consistency.

I guess if you are really hard up to have a new version just go buy Music Studio.

Subject:RE: Acid 8 Pro ... I'm ready
Reply by: kitekrazee
Date:10/1/2011 3:02:00 AM

BTW, the multi track drums tutorial was really nice. Another video using Acid 7 would be nice.

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