Subject:Acid/Cool Edit LE Multitrack Combo

Posted by: Maruuk

Date:8/25/2001 2:36:24 PM

Ok, this is the fourth time I have posed this question, but SF refuses to answer it: Since Acid alone has extremely limited audio overdubbing (aka One Shot, aka Multi-tracking)capabilities, and sync problems when you do try it, can you simply use the midi router to achieve sync between Acid 3.0 and the included Cool Edit LE and use that as the audio overdubbing app? Of course, you'd be sacrificing the major feature of rendering the mix internally, but at least you wouldn't have to spend hundreds on some fancy multi-tracker app just to overdub a few vocals and guitar tracks. Seems pretty obvious but anybody out there actually tried this? Thanks!

Subject:RE: Acid/Cool Edit LE Multitrack Combo

Reply by: pwppch

Date:8/25/2001 2:44:01 PM

Included Cool Edit???!!! Not included with our software...

To answer your question, we don't recommend Cool EDIT - or any third party applications. I can say that what you want to do is not what ACID was intended for. However, if you want to slave Forge 4.5 or 5.0 to ACID, I can say we do support this.

Hope this answers your question.

Peter

Subject:RE: Acid/Cool Edit LE Multitrack Combo

Reply by: Maruuk

Date:8/25/2001 3:05:48 PM

Peter--Thanks for the reply--sorry, Vegas Audio LE (Cool Edit came with my sound card! Since you didn't mention it, is there some problem syncing Vegas Audio LE to Acid via the midi router? Wouldn't this provide multiple audio tracks in sync with the Acid loops?

Subject:RE: Acid/Cool Edit LE Multitrack Combo

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:8/25/2001 7:23:10 PM

I had no problem using the VMR with ACID Pro 3 and Vegas Audio LE.

HTH,
Iacobus

Subject:RE: Acid/Cool Edit LE Multitrack Combo

Reply by: pwppch

Date:8/25/2001 11:17:07 PM

Yes, you can use Vegas LE with ACID in the way you want.

Peter

Subject:RE: Acid/Vegas LE Multitrack Combo

Reply by: Mus

Date:8/26/2001 11:50:49 AM

Hi,

I just tried sync'ing Vegas LE to Acid and Vegas will follow the MTC OK but will not produce any Audio output (Acid does).

If I stop Acid and start Vegas the latter will produce sound again.

I am generating MTC from Acid to a Motu Micro Express port 4 hard-wired to an AWE64 Gold In

Thanks

M

Subject:RE: Acid/Vegas LE Multitrack Combo

Reply by: Mus

Date:8/27/2001 10:07:21 AM

I wrote:
> I just tried sync'ing Vegas LE to Acid and Vegas will follow the MTC OK but will not produce any Audio output (Acid does)...

And this is because I was trying to use the same audio device. As long as you have multiple outs it seems to work OK, except that some graphics operations may throw the sync out.

My next problem is routing the MTC to two different Nidi devices so I can sync Emagic Logic... Or maybe it's all getting very silly?

Regards

M

Subject:RE: Acid/Vegas LE Multitrack Combo

Reply by: Mus

Date:8/27/2001 10:27:47 AM

> two different Nidi devices...

I might even try Midi. You never know, it might even work.

Subject:RE: Acid/Vegas LE Multitrack Combo

Reply by: Maruuk

Date:8/27/2001 12:08:50 PM

Mus--You raise a tricky but interesting issue for us non-techs: if you're using Acid with another audio app, how do you get your driver/sound card combo to accept both audio sources simultaneously? My Mia card actually has native mixing of multiple inputs from multiple drivers/apps built right in as a DSP feature--but a lot of folks don't have this capability. ReWire from Steinberg/Propellerhead addresses this and goes one further: It allows their apps to accept audio output from any other ReWire-spec program so you can mix and render in one environment. SF should definitely look at this on future updates as it's one of the big selling tools for Reason/Nuendo/etc. MOTU, Logic Audio and a lot of others are getting their products "ReWired"--hint hint SF!

Subject:RE: Acid/Vegas LE Multitrack Combo

Reply by: Mus

Date:8/27/2001 2:03:19 PM

Maruuk,

I have a Creamw@re TDAT16 (aka Sonorus) card which is basically a 16 I/O ADAT interface card and Windows and audio apps treat this as 8 separate Stereo I/O devices. So I can use 4 in Acid and 4 in Vegas (if I upgrade from LE that is).

The only bummer in the equation is Creamw@re whose own software TripleDAT places a lock on the whole card so after using it any other app will crash the PC to reboot.

Friendly, eh!

Regards

M

Subject:RE: Acid/Vegas LE Multitrack Combo

Reply by: Maruuk

Date:8/27/2001 10:34:17 PM

Mus--Yikes! So as long as you avoid using TripleDAT you're okay?

Subject:RE: Acid/Vegas LE Multitrack Combo

Reply by: photon

Date:8/28/2001 1:19:34 AM

I recently upped to W2K from NT4 and it seems that W2K allows multiple apps to use the same outputs simultaneously.

Subject:RE: Acid/Vegas LE Multitrack Combo

Reply by: Mus

Date:8/28/2001 5:06:07 AM

> Mus--Yikes! So as long as you avoid using TripleDAT you're okay?

Yeah but it's useful for CD writing and it switches one of the ADAT's to optical SPDIF for doing rough mixes to MiniDisk.

Quite a nice editing interface but not supported by Creamw@re very much, hence my interest in Acid/Vegas. I never liked mixing Audio and Midi too much in something lke Logic.
Regards

M