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Subject:Bass loops with chords ?? Posted by: aroaro Date:2/22/2011 8:44:21 AM Where could I find bass loops based on chords, as in major, minor, 7, dim...? From what I can see the bass loops that come with Music Studio 8 only indicate the note. Could anyone make some recommendations? Thanks.
Subject:RE: Bass loops with chords ?? Reply by: Iacobus Date:2/22/2011 1:19:31 PM I was under the assumption that this was up to the author, otherwise confusion might be created (e.g., trying to make a C Major chord fit into a project that has a key of C minor). Iacobus
Subject:RE: Bass loops with chords ?? Reply by: aroaro Date:2/22/2011 1:37:26 PM I'm not sure I understand your point and I'm not very familiar with Acid, so maybe what I say doesn't make sense... When you have a bass loop, the bass could play within that loop the notes that define the character of a chord. It could play the root, third and fifth, and when you hear/use this loop, it's obvious it's a major chord. Or it could play the root, flat third and fifth and it would be a minor chord. This way if you have a chord progression that goes major, minor, 7th, minor etc, the bass line can follow that progression. I have an old Zoom PS02 for guitar, where you can create bass tracks from loops, and it has loops for each note, C through B, and for each note it has a loop in major, minor etc. Basically, it has a loop in C minor, in C major, C diminished, C7 etc, and the same for all the notes, D through B.
Subject:RE: Bass loops with chords ?? Reply by: Iacobus Date:2/24/2011 11:46:00 AM Simply put: ACID only does what you tell it to do when it comes to keys. What that means is that if you place an ACID project's key in "C", it could be C Major or C minor; ACID has no way of telling for sure that the sample you're throwing at it is actually Major or minor, other than what root note it was "ACIDized" at. For example, if one creates a loop that simply plays a C minor chord: C Eb G and ACIDizes it with a root note of "C", that chord isn't going to obviously sit too well in an ACID project that's intentionally C Major. (And hence why it's important to label your loops and samples as such so users know.) A lot of the time, unless authors are going for a specific feel, they'll use notes common to both the Major and minor keys, like using the root and the fifth. C and G, for example, both fit within C Major and C minor scales.

Subject:Bass loops with chords ??

Posted by: aroaro

Date:2/22/2011 8:44:21 AM

Where could I find bass loops based on chords, as in major, minor, 7, dim...? From what I can see the bass loops that come with Music Studio 8 only indicate the note.
Could anyone make some recommendations? Thanks.

Subject:RE: Bass loops with chords ??

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:2/22/2011 1:19:31 PM

I was under the assumption that this was up to the author, otherwise confusion might be created (e.g., trying to make a C Major chord fit into a project that has a key of C minor).

Iacobus

Subject:RE: Bass loops with chords ??

Reply by: aroaro

Date:2/22/2011 1:37:26 PM

I'm not sure I understand your point and I'm not very familiar with Acid, so maybe what I say doesn't make sense...

When you have a bass loop, the bass could play within that loop the notes that define the character of a chord. It could play the root, third and fifth, and when you hear/use this loop, it's obvious it's a major chord. Or it could play the root, flat third and fifth and it would be a minor chord.

This way if you have a chord progression that goes major, minor, 7th, minor etc, the bass line can follow that progression.

I have an old Zoom PS02 for guitar, where you can create bass tracks from loops, and it has loops for each note, C through B, and for each note it has a loop in major, minor etc. Basically, it has a loop in C minor, in C major, C diminished, C7 etc, and the same for all the notes, D through B.

Subject:RE: Bass loops with chords ??

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:2/24/2011 11:46:00 AM

Simply put: ACID only does what you tell it to do when it comes to keys.

What that means is that if you place an ACID project's key in "C", it could be C Major or C minor; ACID has no way of telling for sure that the sample you're throwing at it is actually Major or minor, other than what root note it was "ACIDized" at.

For example, if one creates a loop that simply plays a C minor chord:

C Eb G

and ACIDizes it with a root note of "C", that chord isn't going to obviously sit too well in an ACID project that's intentionally C Major. (And hence why it's important to label your loops and samples as such so users know.)

A lot of the time, unless authors are going for a specific feel, they'll use notes common to both the Major and minor keys, like using the root and the fifth. C and G, for example, both fit within C Major and C minor scales.