Subject:Question about Acid Pro 3.0

Posted by: SonofGary

Date:8/14/2001 11:46:07 PM

I've been making my music on the simple Acid Music 2.0 for about a year and I've been thinking about getting Acid Pro 3.0 to take my music to the next level. I am eager to make studio quality recordings and I was wondering if that would get the job done. So if anyone that has Acid Pro 3.0 would like to tell me what they think of the product I would greatly appreciate it. Also I was wondering if I could hook up one of those high quality microphones they have in studios and everything would work fine.
Thanks,
Son of Gary

Subject:RE: Question about Acid Pro 3.0

Reply by: Tombolino

Date:8/15/2001 9:30:03 AM

If you do get it, try Best Buy. I saw it there for $150

Subject:RE: Question about Acid Pro 3.0

Reply by: Ted_H

Date:8/15/2001 9:34:40 AM

The key to getting a good sound is going to be the sound card. A professional microphone connected to a lousy sound card is not going to give you professional results. Maybe some of our forum users have some sound card suggestions?

Ted

Subject:RE: Question about Acid Pro 3.0

Reply by: Tombolino

Date:8/15/2001 11:36:47 AM

i have yamahas sw1000xg. supposed to be good. paid $500

Subject:RE: Question about Acid Pro 3.0

Reply by: billybk

Date:8/15/2001 12:10:22 PM

I have the Delta 66/Omni Bundle which you can get
from Guitar Center nowadays for like $379.00.
It has 6 inputs/outputs all at 24bit. Incudes
two high quality built-in mic preamps, plus
S/PDIF I/O. The Omni mixer is also very flexible
with many routing options. Also very important,
is the driver support(the Deltas already have very stable WDM drivers), which are continually updated
and improved.

Billy Buck

Billy Buck

Subject:RE: Question about Acid Pro 3.0

Reply by: SonofGary

Date:8/15/2001 1:09:53 PM

Where is a good place to get soundcards? And what is the usual price range for a professional one?

Thanks
Son of Gary

Subject:RE: Question about Acid Pro 3.0

Reply by: Maruuk

Date:8/15/2001 1:32:48 PM

The MIA from Echo Electronics cost me $188 at Edirol.com and has the latest and best 24-bit converters, flexible driver support, lo-impedance inputs plus support for multiple-at-the-same-time apps. And 8-track internal mixing. You'll need a mixer for mics though as it's just line-level in. All in all, about the best deal going short of that Lexicon blowout on their older system. But older hardware scares me in terms of converter quality and driver support (and support in general).

Subject:RE: Question about Acid Pro 3.0

Reply by: Rockitglider

Date:8/15/2001 2:40:26 PM

Hello,

I get them from http://www.marsmusic.com and the price range is $175.00 to $225.00 and the brands are M-Audio Delta Dio 2496, Delta 44, Audiophile 2496.
These are profesional cards at a good price, but you can go all the way up to $800.00 for multiple in's and out's, depending on the money you want to spend.

See ya, Rockit

Subject:RE: Question about Acid Pro 3.0

Reply by: Maruuk

Date:8/15/2001 3:40:07 PM

Never tried Mars, thanks for the tip. BTW, a good little mixer to go with any of these minimal cards is the Mackie 1202VLZ (around $275 discounted), which you can find all over the place. Also the new Electar mixer (at music-yo.com), sort of a Mackie clone, is cheaper but lacks a few features.

Subject:RE: Question about Acid Pro 3.0

Reply by: MyST

Date:8/15/2001 4:36:24 PM

If I plan on using my projects for myself only, burning them on CD to listen in the car and home, would it be that much of an improvement for me to upgrade to a Mia by Echo?
I won't be using them commercially, so will my Turtle Beach Montego Quadzilla be acceptable for personal use?
Keep in mind that the Mia goes for $375 Canadian.

Later...

Subject:RE: Question about Acid Pro 3.0

Reply by: micromusic

Date:8/15/2001 7:43:29 PM

it depends on how your processing your mixes. if your just converting your song to a wav file inside of acid you don't need a soundcard exept to monitor. is it worth spending money on a good card? depends on if you'll be able to hear the difference with the rest of your setup (amp & speakers). on the other hand if you have a mixer and a bunch of outboard effects you should definetly get an eight output card and run individual sounds out & mess em up. or if you have, say, a finalizer by tc electronics then get a good two channel card. i say spend the money on sample cd's if acid is your only music program.

peace
bennett

Subject:RE: Question about Acid Pro 3.0

Reply by: MyST

Date:8/15/2001 8:16:26 PM

Thanks for the reply, it's appreciated.
Yes, I will be converting inside Acid. My main concern was when I add effects to tracks, will the sound card correctly show the "texture" that was added.
I'm only a music enthusiast, so I probably won't notice slight misses, especially since I'm in an apartement (the volume can't be too loud).
Maybe I should look at replacing my computer speakers first, to some better quality ones. I'm getting tired of headphones. That way, what I hear will be closer to what will come out of my Yamaha receiver/ Paradigm speakers.
What do you think? Know of any at $150-200 ?
There are also amplifiers that fit in the tower, that way I could hook up my Bose 201's to my computer. Would this be a viable upgrade/improvement?

Later...

Subject:RE: Question about Acid Pro 3.0

Reply by: Rockitglider

Date:8/15/2001 9:28:07 PM

If you have a Yamaha reciever why don't you get a good sound card like the ones I posted before and run outputs to the reciever Aux inputs or CD inputs and then you can play you computer through your stereo. I run my computer out opticaly to SP/DIF input on my surround sound reciever and I love the sound I get out of it. There is lots of ways to do it but, I gave up the PC speakers along time ago for awsome sound through a house stereo. Either way Good Luck, and have fun.

See ya, Rockit

Subject:RE: Question about Acid Pro 3.0

Reply by: Maruuk

Date:8/15/2001 11:52:25 PM

Heck if you're just using the sound card to monitor, and staying internal with all your sounds, the heck with spending bucks on a pro sound card. Unless your current card is total dog doo and causes latency and dropouts in monitoring, spend the money on something useful, like buying us all a drink.

Subject:RE: Question about Acid Pro 3.0

Reply by: Tombolino

Date:8/16/2001 10:46:55 AM

It all depends on how much quality you want.

A good soundcard, menas more $ and better sound quality. Same for a condenser mic.

Subject:RE: Question about Acid Pro 3.0

Reply by: MyST

Date:8/16/2001 11:14:58 AM

Thanks for the help guys, you saved me some bucks.
As far as hooking up to my Yamaha, well it's not in the same room. However, you did get me thinking about a surround processor I have that I'm not using. It has a built-in amp. If I route my computer to that, then to my Bose, it should work. I'll try it when I get home.
Also, I don't know how useful buying drinks would be... but a bunch of Acid enthusiasts sitting around a table with some drinks and having a "live" forum sounds great!

Later...

Subject:RE: Question about Acid Pro 3.0

Reply by: MyST

Date:8/16/2001 9:44:04 PM

Thanks Rockitglider!!
I used my old surround processor and hooked-up my Bose 201's to it.
The difference is definitely noticeable. The sound seems more neutral and precise.
What I had for computer speakers were Benwin Classics. Good sound overall, but not for working with music. The speakers are wooden (no plastic sound), but the sub colours the music (adjustment on the sub for base and treble).
If only all upgrades/improvements were this cheap!!
Maybe now I can look at adding a second 17" monitor.
Wait, I have this old TV... :)

Later...