Ok, thanks. I don't know whats up, but its only been recently that I've been having all these issues.

Drives getting full?
When did you last blow out the dust bunnies?
Virus, spyware, malware?

Mike

I'm also having problems with 10. Random crashes, especially when starting a render process--mostly with HDV files going to HDV or wmv. I've sent many automated reports to SCS. That's with a, b and c.

9e did not have these problems.

Drives- Not even close. You can even see the Drives meter gadget in the picture I posted.

I keep the inside of my tower spotless. As a matter of fact, I gave it a light dust blowing just two weeks ago.

I use MS Essentials and ran a scan with it, and I just ran MS WIndows Malicious Software Removal Tool. Everythings clear.

I don't know what else it could be.

Thanks.

Which Cineform version are you using, or have you used, to produce those .avis? I understand there is an issue with Cineform (non-HD)

I would not run the gadgets. They are a resource suck and when you are editing you need all the resources you can get.

Is this a new computer? (Or a new O/S installation?) You have already eliminated some of the possible causes of random crashes, but have you checked for the latest device drivers? The ones that come with the computer are almost always out of date as soon as you get the PC home.

Vegas 10c playback is has taken a turn for a worse too. I don't know who is at the controls for these updates but the QA is lacking. It is a sign of the times I tell ya. The subscription to software now a days is corrupt like the fast code that is being produced full of memory problems.

You might try reseating the memory modules, or defragging the hard drive, or trying a different power strip, or re-installing the operating system, or putting in a bug report. -End useless advice-

The only real solution is going back to 8.0c, the last fully stable version.

I'm running 10c 64bit in Win7Pro 64bit with NO problems. At all.

I, too, gave up on 10; all editing is in 8c - it is a true winner. But I render to 9e-64.

I may give 10 another look when it's more stable and I have more time.

In 10B and 10C with about 25 jpg's in the veg (2200 x 2200) and 10 sec duration and text applied to each one if I play it back in full best on external monitor when the cursor hits the next picture there is a monmentary loss of video on the external monitor. (1920 x 1080P) This is with properties set to 1440 x 1080 60i. In full auto it is ok but very blurry. If I set properties to 1920 x 1080 60i it gets worse. Also when you stop the cursor from playing every text block lights up sequentually from begfinning to end then the cursor stops. Does the same thing (like the old T-Bird sequential taillights) if you take a snapshot of one of the pictures. Happens in 32 and 64 bit versions. Didn't have this problem in 9.0E. Can't remember 10.0A.

Vista 64 bit Ultimate
8 gig ram
9650 Intel
JJK

Not sure if this will help but I too have also had so many crashes with cineform projects ive become tired of submitting crash reports, however what I have discovered is that in my project media bin if I change the view from thumbnail to list then vegas becomes more stable and stops crashing on import of media.
If i tried to import numerous cineform files at once then vegas would crash, disable the thumbnail view and the files import with no issue.
I can now edit without crashing.
perhaps someone can also try this and see if it makes any diference.
cheers john

All I can offer you guys for information is that the clips causing issues have been coming from Cineform Neo as converted 24p files in the .avi format. As a matter of fact if I try to drag the converted clips to the timeline in a large batch...it crashes Vegas out. I finally got them to stay on the timeline if I added them in smaller batches. Theres something going on.

Then earlier today Vegas started acting crazy with the clips again while they were already on the timeline. Vegas crashed. When I tried to launch Vegas, it would hang and crash every time a particular Cineform .avi file was building a thumbnail. I finally turned thumbnail view completely off and relaunched the project. No crash. I removed the few files from the timeline, re-enabled thumbnail view, and relaunched Vegas. No crash.

Vegas 10 overall has just been very sketchy for me so far. I keep my system lean and mean. You can look at my machine specs in my profile, but in short, its a 3Ghz quadcore, 4gig RAM, Radeon 4850 1gig card, etc. It's plenty of machine.

Thanks for helping/listening.

-Brad

I PM'd Jake about this issue, and this was his response:

"Hey Brad. I'm still with Cineform. You can reach me directly at jsegraves@cineform.com."

I'll let you guys know if I have any further issues.

-Brad

This isn't much help I'm afraid.

I'm finding largish project are crash central with V10. Projects that run quite well in V9.0e are an almost immediate crash in V10 IF I set preview quality to Best/Full.
These are just vanilla MXF and HDV projects, quite a few clips but nothing over the top. I've had V10 display red frame even from gen media.
As my now somewhat older clunker has only 2GB of RAM I figured I'd try maxing out the RAM but I'm sorry to say fitting 8GB of RAM has not helped at all. V9.0e does seem just a little bit smoother with the extra RAM.
My next step will be to install Win7/64 and see how V10 performs with 16GB of RAM to play in. I'm keen to get V10 off the launch pad because for me at least the new features are the best of any version in many years but it's all for nothing if the darn thing cannot be trusted. I should also mention I did get a couple of simple projects out the door initially with V10 so I thought it was all good to go :(

Bob.

G'day

Referring back to the OP...

"This latest one is really tripping me out. I will close Vegas down, but the process continues. It eats up RAM and CPU. I've been manually killing it off, but one time it just kept getting worse where I was down to 250MB of RAM. I had to shut everything down and reboot. It's like a rogue process, severe memory leakage"

I've been getting this symptom as well, right from the time I first used 10a. I though it was a bit odd, but didn't report it as I can't reproduce it consistently. I first noticed it when I started observing my PC slowing down and a lot of hard disk activity occurring, so I checked the processes that were running and Vegas 10 was listed AND it was gobbling up RAM like nobody's business.

I was able to shut down the process easily enough. This has occurred maybe four or five times now and I've got to the point that I check the running processes after every occasion that I shut Vegas down.

Cheers

Russ

Yes! EXACTLY the same issue. When this happened to me, it literally scared me because RAM was disappearing quickly and honestly, I didn't know what was going to happen. Severe crash of the system, etc. No matter what I tried, the process would..not..end. Luckily the OS was still functional and I could manually shut everything down. After reboot it was fine again.

This is a HUGE problem Sony. Vegas 10 is unstable as hell. I don't want to go back to 9e, but I think I'm going to have to. I have several projects that need done and 10 is nothing but a headache thus far.

*sigh*
-Brad

Brad C. wrote: "Vegas 10 is unstable as hell."

What a definitive general statement.

Just strange, that Vegas 10 just runs and runs here and does a lot of editing and rendering 7-8 hours a day and 7 days a week without any problems (full HD and mostly 2 jobs at a time (1 editing and 1 rendering)

No chrashes and no other misbehaving. Not even the slightest issue.

Edit: Ah, yes My formats: well about everything since I collect a diary from 2004 and up to 2010 - so it is about 20 formats from 20 different cameras ranging from 320x480 AVI MJPEG and up to 25 Mbps AVCHD full HD at high profile - plus several large stills.
Thought I would have to transcode - but just for fun I threw it on the timeline... and: Vegas just did it all. My Opinion: Awesome.

Neither statement is exactly illuminating.
What are you editing, how many clips, how long is the project?

As I said before I'd run several basic V10 projects without issue. The problems started to arise when I went to do more complex projects. By that I mean more clips in the project media, say 200 FullHD MXF and 10 or so HDV clips, total media duration around 4 hours.

These projects run just fine in V9.0e. Open them in V10 and with Preview set to Good/Half it seems reasonably stable, change preview to Best/Full and the preview window can go red and there's an immediate crash.

For those having issues recovering from a crash in my case the problem is the ErrorReportLauncher process starts up and it seems to just hang. If you kill that process first then you can shut down Vegas 100 or maybe it'll manage to kill itself.


What may help keep a V10 project alive.
Clean your project media, i.e. use the lightning bolt icon.
Keep Preview RAM very low.
Use a lower preview quality setting.
Avoid having Vegas loose focus.
Avoid previewing over firewire, not 100% certain about this one though.

Bob.

well, 10c running m2t, jpg, png, wave, mp3 (20min) lots of cc, NO problems - not even the tc mentioned elsewhere (i'm pal).

mind you, i have a catastrophic crash with a sapphire plugin. s-dissolvedgerays..

otherwise all ok.....