Subject:Izotope Nectar Pitch Correction

Posted by: Kit

Date:12/11/2010 10:51:56 PM

I just tried the demo of this and manual pitch correction isn't supported in Acid. Is that because Acid isn't 64 bit? I tried a demo of Reaper and manual pitch correction is supported. Are there any pitch correction tools supported in Acid (Windows 7, 64 bit)? Thanks,

Kit

Subject:RE: Izotope Nectar Pitch Correction

Reply by: GrupoJyT

Date:12/16/2010 1:21:35 PM

Sorry Kit!

Any Sony product has not support for Nectar manual pitch correction, as reported by izotope:

http://izotope.com/support/center/index.php?x=&mod_id=2&root=38&id=484

I'm dissapointed with Sony Acid because over the last 2 years we have no news about a software upgrade. Acid does not support side chain signals, notation editor, individual track delay, 64 bits, articulation maps (like drum maps but for instruments not for drums).

I've used Acid over the last 6 years but I'm thinking seriously about a change to a most completed DAW.

Subject:RE: Izotope Nectar Pitch Correction

Reply by: Kit

Date:12/16/2010 4:51:10 PM

Thanks, that is very disheartening. I've been using Acid since it first came out but now think it is time to move on. Cheers,

Kit

Subject:RE: Izotope Nectar Pitch Correction

Reply by: jackn2mpu

Date:12/18/2010 3:08:29 PM

Kit:
You've got three options:
The first is Autotune
The second is Celemony Melodyne
And the third is get a real piece of DAW software like Sonar, Cubase, Nuendo or ProTools if you're working on a PC.

Jack

Subject:RE: Izotope Nectar Pitch Correction

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:12/20/2010 10:04:00 AM

Or maybe, just maybe...people can play/sing in tune for once without the use of aids to cover their lack of "talent"?

But I can dream.

/holds own hands and looks up in anticipation

:D

Iacobus

Subject:RE: Izotope Nectar Pitch Correction

Reply by: GrupoJyT

Date:12/21/2010 10:56:50 PM

I had started evaluating Cubase 4 ...but I'm becoming crazy!
Pros:
-Perfect support for VST 3.0 plugins
-Less CPU usage
-Side chain signal
-Articulation maps

Cons:
-GUI is not as friendly as Acid
-Variying tempo track (beat and signature control) is very complex.
-Analyzing audio using each track map is not easy because the graphic representation is not as complete as acid.
-I'm triying to use the mouse wheel to compress/expand the timeline ...but Cubase does not have this functionality.
-Ctrl-Home does not go to the begining of the timeline.
-Using VSTi with multiple MIDI channels is more complex than Acid (example: using Kontakt4)
...

I'm not sure to start a change to Cubase but... I'll continue with the evaluation and awaiting for "some signal from Sony about Acid 8..."

WE ARE LEFT FOR THE LAST 2 YEARS

Subject:RE: Izotope Nectar Pitch Correction

Reply by: sodbuster-ca

Date:12/22/2010 5:19:20 PM

"I'm not sure to start a change to Cubase but... I'll continue with the evaluation and awaiting for "some signal from Sony about Acid 8..."

GroupJyT"

I understand where you're coming from here. The notion of finding a single solution/ALL-IN-ONE/perfect tool, DAW is something we've all been looking for for years. So far it's been more of a panacea than a reality.

Many people, myself included, have decided that until that magic piece of software comes along, they will use different DAWs for different functions. In other words, use ACID for the things that it does best and use some other DAW(s) for the thing(s) they(it) do(does) best.

Please don't misunderstand, I'm not critisizing you for doing your "trade-off study". This is normal...these discussions occur every day. I'm merely suggesting that there may be some advantages to using multiple DAWs. Just a thought.

Subject:RE: Izotope Nectar Pitch Correction

Reply by: GrupoJyT

Date:12/23/2010 12:06:10 PM

Good comments!

I was thinking about the same idea: Maybe I'll use Cubase for some special purposes, and the rest of my job remain using Acid

Subject:RE: Izotope Nectar Pitch Correction

Reply by: GrupoJyT

Date:12/29/2010 7:01:04 PM

After an exhaustive evaluation... the winner for me is Melodyne from Celemony. Melodyne includes a VST plugin and a specialized editor:

http://www.celemony.com/cms/

Nectar pitch correction is A TOY compared with this tool. Nectar note detection builds many short notes, when the track has only one or two sustained notes (deficient vibrato detection). Melodyne detects the notes better than Nectar and you no need to set any armonic scale or tonal voice range.

I did an evaluation of Auto Tune evo from Antares Tech: too complex, works in Acid Pro 7 but with many crashes and the rendered track is pretty different and with some clicks.

Nectar can be replaced if you have Alloy (I have it), a good Reverb plugin and Melodyne.