Subject:Acid Pro 6 and Melodyne Assistant?

Posted by: spinweb

Date:9/22/2010 6:04:13 PM

I've been out of the loop (ok, admittedly a bad Acid joke) for awhile now, hence Acid 6, but I'm thinking of adding pitch correction sw to my arsenal. Melodyne Assistant looks decent. I read a few posts here saying they two apps don't work well together and another saying just the plug in is problematic.

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=1&MessageID=659226

Anyone have thoughts on this? Looks like the Assistant is ~$200.

Thanks,

Rick

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 and Melodyne Assistant?

Reply by: feign

Date:9/23/2010 6:19:09 AM

The plugin doesn't work with Acid. Period. Using the standalone Melodyne Studio (or whatever they've renamed it now) works, though a bit awkwardly. For some reason, both Melodyne and Sony are being stubborn about resolving this issue.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 and Melodyne Assistant?

Reply by: spinweb

Date:9/25/2010 1:40:26 PM

anyone have anything else to add on this?! That's it? Done? It doesn't work, even though Melodynes site says it does?

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 and Melodyne Assistant?

Reply by: feign

Date:9/25/2010 10:31:38 PM

Can you give a URL where Melodyne claims the plugin works with Acid Pro? Last time I looked, they had posted an interview with their CEO, who practically laughed with delight that his exalted product only works with "serious" DAWs, and his company didn't need to waste its time checking compatibility with every toy DAW out there. This was in direct response to a question which mentioned Acid.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 and Melodyne Assistant?

Reply by: spinweb

Date:9/26/2010 1:18:11 PM

Wow, that sucks. Way to go Sony and Celemony.

What products for vocal tuning DO work with ACID and don't cost an arm and leg?

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 and Melodyne Assistant?

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:9/27/2010 10:35:00 AM

"Last time I looked, they had posted an interview with their CEO, who practically laughed with delight that his exalted product only works with "serious" DAWs, and his company didn't need to waste its time checking compatibility with every toy DAW out there. This was in direct response to a question which mentioned Acid."

The only serious thing here is maybe the industry simply needs to stop using "talent" that can't sing a tune to save their life so there's no need for his product?

But I can dream.

Iacobus

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 and Melodyne Assistant?

Reply by: sodbuster-ca

Date:9/27/2010 1:08:11 PM

What products for vocal tuning DO work with ACID and don't cost an arm and leg?

spinweb

You might want to try "Autotune" by Antares and "WavesTune" by Waves.

They both have demo versions available to try so you can determine their compatibility with your system yourself. As far as price is concerned, do some research...there may be other less expensive alternatives out there. Google is your friend.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 and Melodyne Assistant?

Reply by: sodbuster-ca

Date:9/27/2010 1:49:07 PM

The only serious thing here is maybe the industry simply needs to stop using "talent" that can't sing a tune to save their life so there's no need for his product?

But I can dream.

Iacobus

Agreed. But you have to acknowledge that Pop music has always been based on "selling the Sizzle rather than selling the Steak". Whether its using other singers or musicians in the studio instead of the band members, or soaking the vocals with reverb to hide defects in tone quality, producers & engineers have used many tricks to polish a poor performance to sell more records. "AutoTuning" is just the latest trend. Remember "Milli Vanilli"?

But there's another aspect to this story. Pitch correction processors such as AutoTune & Melodyne have become popular as a special effect.

Its more than just correcting a poor performance, its now used as a special effect like an equalizer, reverb, digital delay, harmonizer, talk-box, wah & distortion pedals etc.

Check out that "Lap Band" commercial on TV every ten minutes.

Technology sometimes is a game changer. Drum machines put a lot of drummers out of work for a while. They've made a come back because live drumming sounds better than machines. (...well, most of the time...some of the latest samplers are so good it's hard to tell the difference.)

DAW's put many big name recording studios out of business. Its now possible to make good sounding recordings in your basement using equipment costing $4k-to-$5k. Thirty years ago, the owner of that basement studio would've had to pay ~ $60k to get an equivalent sound. In those days a cheap 24 track recorder & mixing console would cost you $50k. Now, you can buy ACID Pro for, what, $300 at Guitar Center? ...Sign of the times".

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 and Melodyne Assistant?

Reply by: spinweb

Date:9/28/2010 9:27:57 AM

----You might want to try "Autotune" by Antares and "WavesTune" by Waves.----

Are these plug-ins? Do they work well with ACID's workspace?

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 and Melodyne Assistant?

Reply by: spinweb

Date:10/9/2010 4:47:13 PM

----You might want to try "Autotune" by Antares and "WavesTune" by Waves.----

---Are these plug-ins? Do they work well with ACID's workspace? ---

Anyone working with these in Acid 6? Preferences? Are they plug-ins?

Thx!

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 and Melodyne Assistant?

Reply by: sodbuster-ca

Date:10/9/2010 6:47:01 PM

Gee wiz man!

Why don't you simply:

1) Go to the manufacturers web sites

2) Read the product descriptions

3) Download demo versions of the products

4) Install them on your system to see how/if they work for you.

I personally have no use for those types of products but I chimed in to try and help lead you to a possible solution to your dilemma.

I'm sure there are many other similar products on the market.

Use Google.com or some other search engine to see what else is out there in the marketplace.

Search other music forums to see what other people are doing.

Music production has always required a certain amount of ingenuity & resourcefulness from the producers and engineers. Finding/developing/using work-arounds are a good engineer's stock-in-trade. It often leads to finding a unique sound.

Or you can simply wait here for someone to tell you what to buy.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 and Melodyne Assistant?

Reply by: AnthonyTower

Date:10/10/2010 7:36:20 AM

sodbuster-ca wrote:
"Gee wiz man!.....
.....Or you can simply wait here for someone to tell you what to buy."

Well said!
And your comments apply not just to this thread, but also to so many ding-a-ling threads elsewhere on the web, like on KVRaudio and such.
My personal "favorite" that permeates the Web has to be: "What is the most analogue sounding plug-in out there?".............or it's close cousin: "Does plug-in <fill in the blanks> sound really analogue?".........
Cheers

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 and Melodyne Assistant?

Reply by: spinweb

Date:10/14/2010 3:01:35 PM

I'm not asking for someone to *tell* me what to buy. I thought forums such as these were to share information. Perhaps save each other some headaches, etc.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 and Melodyne Assistant?

Reply by: sodbuster-ca

Date:10/14/2010 7:11:33 PM

"... I thought forums such as these were to share information. Perhaps save each other some headaches, etc.

spinweb"

You are correct. The primary reason for establishing a forum such as this, is to allow customers to share information about the companies products. It also allows members to make suggestions about other products, techniques or methodologies.

I suggested that you take a look at a couple of products that I thought were somewhat similar to the Melodyne product. I also suggested that there are likely to be other similar products on the market and it would be wise for you to conduct internet searches on your own to see if that is indeed true.

You responded by asking multiple times "...are these plug-ins?...do they work well in ACID?...".

Question #1) "Are these plug-ins?"

Answer #1) They probably are. But since I don't use these types of products, I don't know for sure. But you can know for sure by simply going to the manufacturer's websites and READING THE PRODUCT DESCRIPTIONS. What's so hard about that? You do know how to read.

In my effort to help you out of your dilemma, I did a quick google search an found a couple of pitch correction products and posted them in this thread. Excuse me for trying to help.

Question #2) "Do they work well in ACID"

Answer #2) I don't know. But even if they did work well on my system, there is no guarantee that they would work equally well on your system. The only way to know for sure is to download the demos and try them for yourself.

I suppose that I could have downloaded the demos, put them through a rigorous test regiment and reported my results back to you. BUT GEE WIZ MAN...YOU CAN DO THAT FOR YOURSELF!!!![/B]

If you don't want to go through the "headaches" of trying out demos, then you can wait here for someone to "tell" you what to buy.