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Subject:Legal Loops.. Posted by: 12StringDreams Date:7/22/2001 10:54:42 AM I know this is going to sound funny, but I'm working on a collection of Country music loops. A few people have expressed interest in using them. How do I protect a collection of loops that are intended to be reused? Where is the line between using loops to make original music and taking a collection of loops and selling them as your own? Are they music, a performace, or software? I didn't intend on selling them, but I wouldn't want somebody else to make money off my work... Call me selfish :) Tracy Simants 12StringDreams.com
Subject:RE: Legal Loops.. Reply by: Ted_H Date:7/23/2001 10:32:02 AM The first step to protecting your intellectual property is to actually copyright it. You should probably consult a legal advisor (one who specializes in the music business would be ideal) to find out what the best course of action would be after you have taken the first step. Ted
Subject:RE: Legal Loops.. Reply by: 12StringDreams Date:7/23/2001 12:21:40 PM I guess that is my question. I have copyrights on most of my songs, but I don't know how to copyright a sample or loop. Their purpose is to be reused, I just don't want to see all 1300 loops being sold as a collection somewhere... Thanks for the reply.. Tracy Simants 12StringDreams.com
Subject:RE: Legal Loops.. Reply by: ashford2 Date:7/23/2001 3:38:24 PM I guess the question here is , do you know that the note combination in your loop is original , never used before? Is the loop big enough to be totally unique Maybe not , here is the old rock n roll way to copyright your material , Put all your material in a package and mail it to your self . this is a form of copyright protection , list the work when you send it out to the public as copyrighted , date etc. that you mailed it to yourself. If an infringement event comes up, take the unopened package and the infringement material to a lawyer. Don't open the package until in court. Prior to that it is your tool for reaching a settlement. Still you would have to prove they stole the exact loops you created, note patterns etc will probably not be protected unless they were part of an entire original song you wrote and you could prove the utilized the entire heart of the song .
Subject:RE: Legal Loops.. Reply by: Rockitglider Date:7/23/2001 11:17:46 PM Hey, Are you making loops with a 12 string guitar? If so why don't you share them? I could use some 12 string singin' out. See ya
Subject:RE: Legal Loops.. Reply by: ramone Date:7/24/2001 6:39:05 AM check out the library of congress website for the information you need. mailing the stuff to yourself is not really sufficient. good luck!

Subject:Legal Loops..

Date:7/22/2001 10:54:42 AM

I know this is going to sound funny, but I'm working on a collection of Country music loops. A few people have expressed interest in using them. How do I protect a collection of loops that are intended to be reused? Where is the line between using loops to make original music and taking a collection of loops and selling them as your own? Are they music, a performace, or software? I didn't intend on selling them, but I wouldn't want somebody else to make money off my work... Call me selfish :)

Tracy Simants
12StringDreams.com

Subject:RE: Legal Loops..

Reply by: Ted_H

Date:7/23/2001 10:32:02 AM

The first step to protecting your intellectual property is to actually copyright it. You should probably consult a legal advisor (one who specializes in the music business would be ideal) to find out what the best course of action would be after you have taken the first step.

Ted

Subject:RE: Legal Loops..

Reply by: 12StringDreams

Date:7/23/2001 12:21:40 PM

I guess that is my question. I have copyrights on most of my songs, but I don't know how to copyright a sample or loop. Their purpose is to be reused, I just don't want to see all 1300 loops being sold as a collection somewhere...

Thanks for the reply..

Tracy Simants
12StringDreams.com

Subject:RE: Legal Loops..

Reply by: ashford2

Date:7/23/2001 3:38:24 PM

I guess the question here is , do you know that the note combination in your loop is original , never used before? Is the loop big enough to be totally unique
Maybe not , here is the old rock n roll way to copyright your material , Put all your material in a package and mail it to your self . this is a form of copyright protection , list the work when you send it out to the public as copyrighted , date etc. that you mailed it to yourself. If an infringement event comes up, take the unopened package and the infringement material to a lawyer.
Don't open the package until in court. Prior to that it is your tool for reaching a settlement.
Still you would have to prove they stole the exact loops you created, note patterns etc will probably not be protected unless they were part of an entire original song you wrote and you could prove the utilized the entire heart of the song .

Subject:RE: Legal Loops..

Reply by: Rockitglider

Date:7/23/2001 11:17:46 PM

Hey, Are you making loops with a 12 string guitar?
If so why don't you share them? I could use some 12 string singin' out.

See ya

Subject:RE: Legal Loops..

Reply by: ramone

Date:7/24/2001 6:39:05 AM

check out the library of congress website for the information you need. mailing the stuff to yourself is not really sufficient. good luck!