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Subject:Crossover Elimination Posted by: mark4man Date:7/22/2001 11:48:10 AM In recording (DAW; & transfering tracks to Cakewalk), individual tracks represent individual instruments (Guitar on track 1, Bass on track 2; & so on.) I then move those tracks into Sound Forge for editing. In the process of recording each instrument, a little bit of bleeding occurs in the form of a low volume background pickup of other instruments. I was hoping to get rid of the bleeding using a noise gate setting, but it doesn't seem to be working. Shouldn't audio below a certain decibel get muted with a noise gate? Is thare any Sound Forge function that will eliminate this crossover? Does anybody have any ideas? Thanks.
Subject:RE: Crossover Elimination Reply by: Dave2 Date:7/22/2001 1:53:58 PM Seems like the place to start would be Parametric EQ. I have only messed with it a couble of times but it looks like the 'Low frequency shelf filter should do the job. D. melvin
Subject:RE: Crossover Elimination Reply by: Dave2 Date:7/23/2001 8:53:04 PM Mark4man Have you found a solution for your for situation? Did you try any of the filters in Parametric EQ? Some feedback would be appreciated. Thanks D. Melvin
Subject:RE: Crossover Elimination Reply by: jgourd Date:7/24/2001 11:20:45 AM This can be a frustrating thing to try to do. A noise gate is a good place to start. Noise gates only gate when the whole signal is below a certain level. It sounds like you believe that it removes sounds below a certain level while leaving the primary sound alive, it doesn't work that way. However, tweaking a gate can get some very good results especially for drums. There are some better gates out there that let you run the trigger from a "side chain" filter. For instance, say there is lots of snare in your kick. You adjust the side chain so the the gate is controlled only by the kick's main low frequency. This will cause the snare's sound to be somewhat ignored by the gate trigger. The same holds true for drums getting into the cymbol mics. After gating, try eq. There is no reason to have signals below 1K on a cymbol track.

Subject:Crossover Elimination

Posted by: mark4man

Date:7/22/2001 11:48:10 AM

In recording (DAW; & transfering tracks to Cakewalk), individual tracks represent individual instruments (Guitar on track 1, Bass on track 2; & so on.) I then move those tracks into Sound Forge for editing. In the process of recording each instrument, a little bit of bleeding occurs in the form of a low volume background pickup of other instruments. I was hoping to get rid of the bleeding using a noise gate setting, but it doesn't seem to be working. Shouldn't audio below a certain decibel get muted with a noise gate? Is thare any Sound Forge function that will eliminate this crossover? Does anybody have any ideas? Thanks.

Subject:RE: Crossover Elimination

Reply by: Dave2

Date:7/22/2001 1:53:58 PM

Seems like the place to start would be Parametric EQ. I have only messed with it a couble of times but it looks like the 'Low frequency shelf filter should do the job.

D. melvin

Subject:RE: Crossover Elimination

Reply by: Dave2

Date:7/23/2001 8:53:04 PM

Mark4man

Have you found a solution for your for situation?

Did you try any of the filters in Parametric EQ?

Some feedback would be appreciated.

Thanks

D. Melvin

Subject:RE: Crossover Elimination

Reply by: jgourd

Date:7/24/2001 11:20:45 AM

This can be a frustrating thing to try to do. A noise gate is a good place to start. Noise gates only gate when the whole signal is below a certain level. It sounds like you believe that it removes sounds below a certain level while leaving the primary sound alive, it doesn't work that way. However, tweaking a gate can get some very good results especially for drums.

There are some better gates out there that let you run the trigger from a "side chain" filter. For instance, say there is lots of snare in your kick. You adjust the side chain so the the gate is controlled only by the kick's main low frequency. This will cause the snare's sound to be somewhat ignored by the gate trigger. The same holds true for drums getting into the cymbol mics.

After gating, try eq. There is no reason to have signals below 1K on a cymbol track.