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Subject:Acid Pro 4 and MusicLab Vsti Posted by: Pol Davril Date:10/8/2010 1:14:36 AM Hi, With Acid Pro 4, I render a MIDI file through a MusicLab VST instrument (RealGuitar, RealStrat, RealLPC). RealGuitar has a "Quick load" option : it allows to load a reduced set of samples at startup, the extra is loaded from disk when needed. With this "Quick load" option set to "on", the render does not work properly : notes are cut off (randomly at each render). However, the preview plays fine. So, before rendering, I have to set the 'Quick Load" option to "OFF" for the whole sample library can be loaded. However, RealStrat and RealLPC do NOT have the "Quick Load" option. They never load the whole sample library. So, a good rendering cannot be done. I sent this issue to MusicLab support, asking them to add the "Quick Load" option in both instruments. I'm waiting for a reply. About Acid Pro 4, are there parameters to change (buffer size ? other setting ?) to avoid this issue and render even if the "Quick Load" is on ? What could be the cause of this problem ? Thanks. Message last edited on10/8/2010 1:15:35 AM byPol Davril.
Subject:RE: Acid Pro 4 and MusicLab Vsti Reply by: Iacobus Date:10/8/2010 9:24:57 AM This sounds VSTi-specific as I never have had that option available to me. When I load a drum kit in KitCore, the whole thing loads (which I would prefer anyway). It sounds like the ball is in MusicLab's park. Iacobus
Subject:RE: Acid Pro 4 and MusicLab Vsti Reply by: sodbuster-ca Date:10/8/2010 12:42:34 PM "... the render does not work properly ..." Pol Davril A work-around would be to perform a "real-time bounce to stereo" instead of a non-realtime render to stereo. I've never used ACID Pro 4 so I don't know if can perform a realtime bounce but its worth investigating. Bouncing to stereo in realtime takes more time to accomplish but it has several benefits including: 1) Using hardware MIDI instruments driven by your MIDI tracks 2) Using external hardware effects 3) Work-arounds for certain VSTI issues The early versions of Pro Tools LE didn't have a non-realtime render function...it only had realtime bounce to disk. I don't know if the newer versions of PTLE have render or bounce. Another option would be to simply record your VSTI's to audio tracks then render your project as you normally would. Message last edited on10/8/2010 12:47:22 PM bysodbuster-ca.
Subject:RE: Acid Pro 4 and MusicLab Vsti Reply by: Pol Davril Date:10/9/2010 5:49:32 AM Thanks. Meanwhile, I found a workaround by changing a value in the registry to force RealStrat and RealLPC to load the whole sample set. But it's tricky and not so handy. I'm still waiting for news from MusicLab.
Subject:RE: Acid Pro 4 and MusicLab Vsti Reply by: Pol Davril Date:10/17/2010 7:45:12 AM I got news from MusicLab. They confirm the registry workaround and this annoyance will be fixed in the upcoming update. Could any Acid Internal parameter (buffer, time-out, ...) help solving this VSTi issue ?

Subject:Acid Pro 4 and MusicLab Vsti

Posted by: Pol Davril

Date:10/8/2010 1:14:36 AM

Hi,

With Acid Pro 4, I render a MIDI file through a MusicLab VST instrument (RealGuitar, RealStrat, RealLPC).

RealGuitar has a "Quick load" option : it allows to load a reduced set of samples at startup, the extra is loaded from disk when needed.
With this "Quick load" option set to "on", the render does not work properly : notes are cut off (randomly at each render). However, the preview plays fine.
So, before rendering, I have to set the 'Quick Load" option to "OFF" for the whole sample library can be loaded.

However, RealStrat and RealLPC do NOT have the "Quick Load" option. They never load the whole sample library. So, a good rendering cannot be done.
I sent this issue to MusicLab support, asking them to add the "Quick Load" option in both instruments. I'm waiting for a reply.

About Acid Pro 4, are there parameters to change (buffer size ? other setting ?) to avoid this issue and render even if the "Quick Load" is on ? What could be the cause of this problem ?

Thanks.

Message last edited on10/8/2010 1:15:35 AM byPol Davril.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 4 and MusicLab Vsti

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:10/8/2010 9:24:57 AM

This sounds VSTi-specific as I never have had that option available to me. When I load a drum kit in KitCore, the whole thing loads (which I would prefer anyway).

It sounds like the ball is in MusicLab's park.

Iacobus

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 4 and MusicLab Vsti

Reply by: sodbuster-ca

Date:10/8/2010 12:42:34 PM

"... the render does not work properly ..."

Pol Davril

A work-around would be to perform a "real-time bounce to stereo" instead of a non-realtime render to stereo. I've never used ACID Pro 4 so I don't know if can perform a realtime bounce but its worth investigating.

Bouncing to stereo in realtime takes more time to accomplish but it has several benefits including:
1) Using hardware MIDI instruments driven by your MIDI tracks
2) Using external hardware effects
3) Work-arounds for certain VSTI issues

The early versions of Pro Tools LE didn't have a non-realtime render function...it only had realtime bounce to disk. I don't know if the newer versions of PTLE have render or bounce.

Another option would be to simply record your VSTI's to audio tracks then render your project as you normally would.

Message last edited on10/8/2010 12:47:22 PM bysodbuster-ca.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 4 and MusicLab Vsti

Reply by: Pol Davril

Date:10/9/2010 5:49:32 AM

Thanks.
Meanwhile, I found a workaround by changing a value in the registry to force RealStrat and RealLPC to load the whole sample set.
But it's tricky and not so handy.
I'm still waiting for news from MusicLab.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 4 and MusicLab Vsti

Reply by: Pol Davril

Date:10/17/2010 7:45:12 AM

I got news from MusicLab. They confirm the registry workaround and this annoyance will be fixed in the upcoming update.

Could any Acid Internal parameter (buffer, time-out, ...) help solving this VSTi issue ?