Hard Flash FX Bleeding Over Letterbox?

whiskey3 wrote on 10/2/2010, 9:20 PM
See picture here:

http://wolfvideo.net/hardflash.jpg

and here:

http://wolfvideo.net/hardflash2.jpg

My project is Custom 480 by 360. The problem is the the hard flash is appearing above my letterbox matte? My project is 16:9.....I'm not quite sure why this is happening or how to fix it? My title scroll at the end is going underneath the matte fine but the hard flash is above it?

Comments

marts wrote on 10/3/2010, 1:22 AM
is the matte done like this?
http://www.maestri.info/other/Matte_HardFlash.zip

you mentioned that the project is 16:9, but from all numbers I can see on your screen capture it seems that in fact it is 4:3
TheHappyFriar wrote on 10/3/2010, 4:37 AM
Make your project the exact size you want the video to be w/o letterboxing. Then when it's all done, render it out to an AVI then put it in a new project @ the size you want w/letterboxing, then render.

That's the easiest, most fool proof way to do letterboxing.
whiskey3 wrote on 10/3/2010, 1:04 PM
Yes it is.....what do you mean by all the numbers it is 4:3? Thanks....
whiskey3 wrote on 10/3/2010, 1:46 PM
I actually rendered the flash section to an AVI with no audio.... reloaded it in the project and the hard flash bleed IS STILL there??? Don't get it???
whiskey3 wrote on 10/4/2010, 12:29 AM
Problem solved! After creating the matte with the black frames I saved out a snapshot and youi can see it here:

http://wolfvideo.net/Matte.png

The matte only saves a portion of it in Vegas.....I had to take the snapshot png file then import it into photoshop then color fill black the area above and below and save that out as a seperate 480x360 png letterbox png file then import that and use it for the letterbox instead......I have no idea why Vegas is not taking the solid color matte and covering the rest of the screen.....

farss wrote on 10/4/2010, 4:53 AM
480 div 360 = 1.3333 = 4:3

Your project doesn't even look like 16:9. You seem to be doing something truly wierd masking off the top and bottom of a frame that does not even fill your project frame so of course the hard flash will appear above and below your mask.

Can I suggest you give us more information because you seem to have really created quite a mess that'll only get worse.

Bob.
HyperMedia wrote on 10/7/2010, 5:02 AM
A better way is to create black bars in media generator and save it as a template to be use whenever.
whiskey3 wrote on 10/8/2010, 2:18 AM
The project is a 4.5K Red One initially 4096 x 2304. I needed to make a 480 x 360 for an upload to a film festival so adjusted the project settings to 480 x 360.....
farss wrote on 10/8/2010, 2:40 AM
OK, now I understand what you're doing.
You've put 16:9 video into a 4:3 frame. It obviously will not fill that frame, of the 360 vertical pixels it will only fill 270. The remaing 45 pixels at the top and bottom of the frame will be transparent. Many FXs 'bleed' non transparent pixels into transparent ones. You could argue this is wrong but I think if you think it though then making them not work that way would cause even bigger problems and certainly other applications such as Photoshop seem to do the exact same thing.
As I think you've worked out this unwanted behavior is easily fixed by masking those 45 pixels left over at the top and bottom of the frame.
The other approach would be to change your project to 480x270 and render to 480x360. Vegas will then letterbox your project into 480x360 and should give you clean black at the top and bottom of the frame.

Bob.