Vegas and Digital Snakes (recording)

richard-courtney wrote on 9/7/2010, 4:57 AM
I have the task to look into systems for a new building.
Part of the task is to record using Vegas.

A digital snake replaces a traditional thick copper cable
with networked A to D and D to A converters.

Talent can hear a mix they control with In Ear Monitors (earphones).

My question:
Is there a system that is compatible with Vegas that does not
use a D to A box? Just connect to the LAN and use driver software.

Looking at:
ProCo Momentum
Yamaha Aviom
Roland REAC
Fiberplex LightViper


Thanks.

Comments

musicvid10 wrote on 9/8/2010, 8:42 AM
The claims that Roland unit makes look interesting.
If you are looking at long runs optical is better.
pwppch wrote on 9/8/2010, 2:35 PM
The vendor of the system would have to provide hardware/software to allow Vegas to 'see' the nextwork as an audio device.

Peter
farss wrote on 9/13/2010, 6:31 AM
If those are MADI systems then RME's HDSPe MADI interface card appear to be ASIO compliant so it should simply work with Vegas.

Bob.

richard-courtney wrote on 9/16/2010, 2:51 PM
While some use proprietary bridges the one uses hardware layer of ethernet.
Having the individual mixes that the talent can do themselves for in ear
monitoring is a must.

I still haven't received info back about a ASIO driver.

Thanks all for responding.
richard-courtney wrote on 9/20/2010, 8:30 AM
We are going to demo a system consisting of

Yamaha SB168-ES stage box 16 in 8 out
with auvitran ASIO streamer software and console card.

Let everyone know in a few weeks.

reference: http://www.yamahacommercialaudiosystems.com/news_detail.php?newsID=158&year=&type=
pwppch wrote on 9/21/2010, 1:25 AM
I am very interested in how this works for you.

Please, post any results or problems you encounter.

Peter
richard-courtney wrote on 10/4/2010, 5:02 AM
After my head cleared from the excitement of seeing a dream system
I started to think how it would apply to most of you.

The system was for a major church in my area that needed to split
mic amps and mixer/recording by several hundred feet. While audio snake
cables are nothing new to most of us, converting the audio signals to LAN
packets over inexpensive 4 pair network cables instead probably is.

On stage: Yamaha SB168-ES stage box was mounted in a standard 19" rack.
This arrangement allowed 16 microphone/instrument inputs and 8
return outputs. The returns provide mixes for musician's IEM and floor wedges.

Control booth: Yamaha M7CL-48 mixer with Auvitran AVY16-ES100 card.
This arrangement allowed 16 channels of ASIO record and playback for Sony
Vegas. More channels are available if an external Auvitran AVM500-ES device
is used instead of the internal mixer card. I did not have access to one to test.

I wish one could connect the computer directly to Ethersound and use the
Yamaha SB168-ES directly. But special streaming firmware is needed in either
the console card or AVM500-ES device. A good share of the evening was showing
how to use the matrix to route various signals.

The stage box does not have physical controls. All gain and EQ is done through
either the LCD display on the mixer or software on a laptop computer.
Special iPad software has been designed than can control most functions
by the musicians or stage engineer wirelessly. Great for IEM setup.

Recording with Sony Vegas was as expected. Setup only took a few minutes.
As I mentioned, I was disappointed you needed a separate device to get the
audio to the laptop.

I am still trying to test other gear such Dante Virtual Soundcard.