Roll-Your-Own . . dead easy, you'll own it and you get to experience the "other" part of making movies too. I've done quite a bit of it for myself and, with the massive tool-set you've paid for in Vegas, it is all at your fingertips.

Grazie

Grazie added an important clarification: often the straight recording will not be quite right and you need to refine the effect by combining audio effects on several tracks. Vegas has a broad suite of audio tools, although my preference is to do that work with SoundForge and Acid Pro.

I've been having quite a bit of success and fun doing my own foley over the past few months. What I couldn't find the time or resources to do Sounddogs have been my goto place plus a free CD of Hollywood Sound FXs I picked up years ago at NAB.

There's one sound that I desperately need that I just cannot find or get right. I'm after the sound of a "vintage" boxing bell. Everything I've tried sounds like an orcehstral bell, lovely "ding" but what's missing is the "clang". The director will not let go of this and it's driving me nuts so any ideas very much appreciated.

Bob.

http://www.sounddogs.com/results.asp?Type=1&CategoryID=1008&SubcategoryID=22None of these at Sound Dogs?[/link]

Grazie

I'd downloaded just about everyone of them and nope, he ain't happy with ANY of them.
Problem is they're only mp3, you get the good WAV files after you pay and for those kinds of sounds they can sound dramatically different after they've been through mp3 compression. So just to keep this guy quiet for 30 seconds I'll buy a couple of them, the first one sounds pretty good actually, just need a bit of work to make it fill the big arena and it should be good to go.

Thanks for the sanity interlude :)

Bob.

Bob, possibly your client has in memory sounds he's heard in boxing films (e.g. Rocky), and that sound will have been "dramatised". How about http://soundbible.com/56-Boxing-Bell-Start-Round.htmlstart of round[/link]?

"Bob, possibly your client has in memory sounds he's heard in boxing films (e.g. Rocky), and that sound will have been "dramatised". "

I think you're right. Add to that as I keep trying to explain to him such sounds heard in a cinema will sound nothing like they do on his PC speakers or even my nearfield monitors.

The composer for this movie had done a great trick using orchestral style bells during the fight scene so they're both a SFX and part of the music and it works very well but the director isn't buying it.

I should mention Sounddogs customer service is exemplary. I spent less that $10 with them but they were having some technical difficulties resulting in me getting a wrong download link. I emailed them and had a response in minutes and the whole issue fixed in under 20 minutes.

Bob.

What is a RingSide Bell anyway? Like the What is 3-D anyway - it is all about a perception of what it is, and that, dear hearts is mashed into our own personal make-up and experiences.

I bet if you took a recording of a triangle, and struck it, and lowered the pitch and added some reverb it would come close. I remembering some early fight scenes where there WASN'T any audio and dubbed onto it was that clang-clang.

One man's Bell is another man's 3-D!

Grazie

>>>What is a RingSide Bell anyway?<<<

Yes, the philosophical question about cognition, which (as Grazie indicates) is crucial in creating art.
Bob, from your comments I would expect your director would need to finalise his mix at a theatrical post studio (Atlab or whatever)? Obviously cost may be the issue, and maybe that step can be taken after getting a distribution agreement. Certainly they'd fix his SFX issues.

"Bob, from your comments I would expect your director would need to finalise his mix at a theatrical post studio (Atlab or whatever)? "

One was going to do it for free but it slipped and slipped. Director failed to really grasp what their notes about the project were trying to tell him. I should have realised they were being "polite" before I agreed to take on this job. This "Ringside Bell" is a minor issue really compared to other issues. I'll not mention them here because I'd have most busting a seam laughing.

Once I'm done, yes, I'll take the project back to that post house for a final mix. I'm dreading how some of it is going to sound on their large monitors.

Once that's done the next hurdle is the online for vision. Someone is going to have fun fixing the odd makeup malfunction.

I know I don't need to say this here but I've got to get this off my chest. For the sake of all that is holy, check your dailies, daily, not years after the shoot.

Bob.

Ah, one of those jobs. Interesting for a while.

Maybe ask this guy...

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