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Subject:What do you have to say about that ?
Posted by: Zacchino
Date:6/11/2001 4:13:07 AM
Go check that screenshot out http://fadengo.multimania.com/ap3.gif I still can't understand :( It's doing that to me now, it's like worst and worst everyday ! |
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Subject:RE: What do you have to say about that ?
Reply by: djrobby
Date:6/11/2001 10:16:23 AM
DEFINATELY GO CHECK OUT: MUST SEE THIS: VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV http://fadengo.multimania.com/ap3.gif VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV that's exactly what goes wrong.....not only with me but a lot of other people on this fourm and new joiners! |
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Subject:RE: What do you have to say about that ?
Reply by: S N C
Date:6/11/2001 4:33:16 PM
Forgive me, because I would really like to help you solve your problem, but your screenshot does not give much information. Like some other folk in this forum, I have run Acid 3.0 on a variety of machines...the smallest being a 233 Pentium...with nothing like the problems you are experiencing. Reviewing some of your earlier posts, I strongly suspect that the problem may lie in your hard disk operating in PIO rather than UDMA mode. Forgive me, but I couldn't notice if this was ever definitively cleared up. When you start the PC, try going into the BIOS screen and checking out the HDD setup page: it should say there if you are using PIO or UDMA and which mode you are in. Failing this, most BIOSes will also display the info as part of the POST routines and you can catch it there. Could you also tell us: - What size is your HDD? - Do you defrag frequently? - What version of the ISIS drivers are you using? - What version of the video drivers are you using? - What other processes are running in task manager when you start acid (virus, screensavers etc.)? - What version of Win98 are you on? - What motherboard are you using? - Are you using loops from CDs or have you copied them to the HDD? |
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Subject:RE: What do you have to say about that ?
Reply by: Zacchino
Date:6/11/2001 8:58:09 PM
Ok i'll go check that but i don't know if i'll find these setting on my Award Bios !!! All the bioses aren't the same you know... Here are the info you wanted : -Hdd Size : Fujitsu 7200 tr/mn 8 Go (7.5 when formatted) -I defragmented recently without any result... -I'm using the last ISIS drivers (and i tryied the previous one too) but the soundcard ain't the problem (even with my old soundcard it didn't work) -I'm using the last version of my TNT2 32mb drivers. And i updated them recently without any results from ACID 3.0 anyway. -Even if i run acid 3.0 without any program running in the ctrl+alt+del window (and even if i startup without these progs) and i haven't got any screensaver running so the issue isn't there. - I have Win 98 4.10 built 1998 (according to DXdiag) -I have an ABIT BH6 (and even if i upgraded the bios it didn't change anything) -I'm using loop from my HDD (always). Ok i just checked my "Award Software Inc" Bios. The page which seemed like what you wanted me to check is the INTEGRATED PERIPHERALS page : ------------------------------------------------------- Onboard IDE-1 Controller : Enabled Master Drive PIO Mode : Auto Slave Drive PIO Mode : Auto Master Drive Ultra DMA : Auto Slave Drive Ultra DMA : Auto Onboard IDE-2 Controller : Enabled Master Drive PIO Mode : Auto Slave Drive PIO Mode : Auto Master Drive Ultra DMA : Auto Slave Drive Ultra DMA : Auto ------------------------------------------------------- Knowing that "Auto" can be changed to "1", "2", "3" or "4" and that "Enabled" can be changed to "Disabled". So what should i change ? |
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Subject:RE: What do you have to say about that ?
Reply by: S N C
Date:6/12/2001 1:27:10 PM
ok....thanks. Although I still suspect your hdd, your motherboard shares some irq's between its slots, so your problems could lie there. Here are a few more questions and some stuff to try. Questions: - Is your video card the PCI or AGP version? - Starting with the ISA slot, could you tell me what cards are installed in the machine? - Do you know what speed you have set your fsb? - Are you overclocking? Stuff to try: - Make sure that the sound card is installed in one of the middle 2 pci slots (these each have their own IRQ). The PCI slot next to the AGP port shares an IRQ, and the slot next to the ISA slot also shares an IRQ. In win98, sound cards don't like to share IRQs, especially with video. I am reasonably familiar with the Award BIOS (although not for your mobo). The screen I am interested in will be the first or second option in the BIOS menu. This screen should list what devices are attached as slave and master to each IDE. - Is your hdd attached on the primary IDE channel as the master? - Is there a device attached as the slave on the same IDE channel? - Against the line listing the HDD, you should be able to see the capacity, and the mode (which will be something like 'Auto', PIO4, UDMA66). What is it? - Check the cabling to your hdd. Is it a proper 80-wire cable (not one of the standard 40 wire ones? This is needed for proper UDMA support. - If the hdd is the primary master, ensure that the hdd is connected to the end of the cable (not the connector in the middle). As one of the sf staff suggested, download the demo of sisoft sandra (its free) and run the diagnostic that will confirm that the hdd is actually running in UDMA mode. |
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Subject:RE: What do you have to say about that ?
Reply by: Rockitglider
Date:6/12/2001 2:56:12 PM
Hello, I took a look at his PCI setup and his Network card shares IRQ with the Sound Card. Would that do it? IRQ 5 is shared |
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Subject:RE: What do you have to say about that ?
Reply by: S N C
Date:6/12/2001 3:47:12 PM
given the problems he has been having, I would say that moving the sound card to one of the middle pci slots and removing the network card would be well worth trying out. given that he has a hobbyist mobo my personal bet is that he built the machine himself, and for some reason (cable???) the disk is working in PIO rather than UDMA mode. Did you manage to establish that he was definately UDMA under windows? btw, if you're still there let us know how you get on Fadengo :-) |
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Subject:RE: What do you have to say about that ?
Reply by: Zacchino
Date:6/12/2001 7:45:09 PM
Hi there, Ok my IRQ 5 is shared but when i had my older soundcard it wasn't, and the issue was still there :(. So i can try moving them from PCI slot to get another IRQ configuration... I'll warn you if this works. For S N C: >given that he has a hobbyist mobo my personal bet is >that he built the machine himself, Yes i did and i'm wondering if i shouldn't have just bought a computer with a huge price, but without problems :) > and for some reason (cable???) the disk is working >in PIO rather than UDMA mode. Well for the cables... Well i've tryed to link my HDD with my motherboard with an UDMA 66/100 cable but i donno why, my motherboard can't receive such a cable (my Hard Drive does, so maybe the cable is the issue). |
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Subject:RE: What do you have to say about that ?
Reply by: Rockitglider
Date:6/12/2001 8:30:26 PM
The UDMA cable (80 Cond.) is the same plug end as the 40 cond cable they both have 40 pin connectors is that the cables your talking about or are you running SCSI? |