ProType Titler - Now it all makes sense!

TLF wrote on 4/4/2010, 12:20 AM
Like many of us, I've battled with PTT. I can see it has potential, but the lack of help has always caused me a lot of frustration. But this video from Sony, and posted on Sony's official YouTube Channel, made it all clear.

Hope others find it useful.



(There is a Part 1, but it only tells you how to invoke PTT and drop an event on the timeline.)

Comments

Grazie wrote on 4/4/2010, 12:48 AM
Yes, yes it does . . however . . . I am just doing one of my Client's "Style Sheet" text statements ( I do this to give a client my first stab at what we can do .. ), including some stills I took from his Company on Friday, and I was wanting to Eye-Drop Text colour to combine backgrounds - there isn't one. Why?

I've now got my workflow flowing in PTT, but NOT having an eye-drop is a killer.

TAXI!

Grazie



DGates wrote on 4/4/2010, 12:50 AM
That's a good tutorial, because reading the manual alone can be quite a chore.
TLF wrote on 4/4/2010, 1:41 AM
I've never read the manual. And even if I did, it would take longer than 6 minutes spend viewing that video.

Still not quite as powerful as the titler in Premiere Pro, but I'd rather have the ease of editing of Vegas, the fantastic Elastique audio stretcher, and the phenomenal audio editing capabilities than a fantastic titler.

I'm much more willing to use PTT now.
Arthur.S wrote on 4/4/2010, 2:24 AM
Well, I'd taught myself basic animation with PTT, but that's just opened up a whole new dimension! Brill tutorial. (But shame about no eye dropper).
TLF wrote on 4/4/2010, 2:44 AM
So easy when you know how!

Eye dropper is less important to me as for my purposes, white text is all I need. Perhaps there will be a tweak or two in the next version of Vegas...
DGates wrote on 4/4/2010, 2:47 AM
I keep my titles clean and simple. So the multitude of effects within PTT don't really interest me. It seems the bigger the amateur, the more you'll see overuse of effects and titles.

BUT, it's nice to see that if you DO want to add some polish, PTT will fit the bill nicely.
Grazie wrote on 4/4/2010, 3:16 AM
> It seems the bigger the amateur, the more you'll see overuse of effects and titles.

Steady on Old-Bean! - I just want to match and adjust the colour grading with an Eye-Dropper. Making colour ways, with text, is not necessarily dependent on whether it is a paid or non-paid job? As it happens doing a colour match would afford me some professional kudos.

Grazie
farss wrote on 4/4/2010, 3:33 AM
Can someone explain to me why he called them "automation envelopes"? I'm pretty certain I know what automation is and they're not automatable.

Bo
Grazie wrote on 4/4/2010, 3:40 AM
Yes, I can. Wrong use of the term - maybe? Could be that? I understand an AEnvel is what I get when I use the "Automation Controls" within the Track Header. - I believe the term here is being employed to describe how I could automate the process of ready made Envelopes by using one of the preset envelopes. Do you think that is it - Bob?

Grazie
farss wrote on 4/4/2010, 5:05 AM
He might be right!

The envelopes in Vegas are not writable directly like they are in PTT.
When you enable the PTT enveloped and move the object PTT writes the envelop the same way as Vegas will write a keyframe. So I guess yes, the PTT envelopes qualify as automation envelopes.

What confused me is "automation" is used in the audio world to refer to having the envelopes work in conjunction with a control surface or a physical mixer.
PeterDuke wrote on 4/4/2010, 5:42 AM
The two YouTube videos are available for watching or download as a single WMV file via the Sony web site, along with other Les Stroud videos. They are very good but the self promotion at the start is rather tiresome.

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/support/trainingvids-stroud.asp
Tattoo wrote on 4/4/2010, 8:05 AM
Grazie- it's far from ideal, but you can use an eye-dropper from another effect to get the color values you need & then type those into PTT, can't you? Hardly the easy way it should be, but at least you can get the color correct without guessing/adjusting a million times.
Grazie wrote on 4/4/2010, 8:32 AM
> "but you can use an eye-dropper from another effect to get the color values you need "

Neat! - Where do I get the Colour Values from?

Grazie
Grazie wrote on 4/4/2010, 8:34 AM
Done it . . Chroma Key . . I knew that!

Grazie
xberk wrote on 4/4/2010, 4:05 PM
Using PTT more and more as I understand it better and better. Takes practice but has tremendous power. Kudos to Les Stroud for a first rate tutorial (as usual! )

It seems the bigger the amateur, the more you'll see overuse of effects and titles.

I get this point about "overuse of effects" but from my view it's not the amateur but the folks making commercials (especially movie trailers) who are overworking the spinning, morphing, glowing, glittering, flashing, revolving, flying, and bouncing text. With out the pause button on my TIVO who can read this stuff?

Meanwhile I recently had some text jump out of a map (one letter at a time) and sail off to another city, morphing into that city as it pulled into port. Thanks PTT.

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PeterWright wrote on 4/4/2010, 5:19 PM
I'm not sure, but I think Les Stroud just does the top 'n tails for these tutes, and that the actual teaching is done by SCS's usual trainer, Gary Rebholz.
Grazie wrote on 4/4/2010, 11:43 PM
xberk - agreed!! When it's bad graphics it is bad graphics, whether paid for or not.

Peter, you are correct. I've watched and met Gary on several occasions over this side of the pond. That is most definitely his "tute-style" and voice.

Grazie
reberclark wrote on 4/5/2010, 3:06 PM
"It seems the bigger the amateur, the more you'll see overuse of effects and titles."

It's like many amateur winemakers - they spend most of their time on the label art and not enough time on the stuff in the bottle! :-)
JJKizak wrote on 4/5/2010, 4:07 PM
JJK says:
"An amateur spends most of his time correcting mistakes that a professional doesn't make."
JJK
FrigidNDEditing wrote on 4/5/2010, 8:57 PM
The best training I've found for PTT is Vol. 9 at VASST "Mastering the Pro Type Titler". The posted training is good, but I think that the I much prefer the look and style of VASST's training. The more training there is, the more knowledge there is, so watch em both :)

Dave
backlit wrote on 4/6/2010, 8:09 AM
It's like many amateur winemakers - they spend most of their time on the label art and not enough time on the stuff in the bottle! :-)

I agree with this statement to an extent. However, the label on the bottle or the beginning titles of a video provide a first impression that sets the tone for the remainder. A tastefully done intro that is fresh and imaginative can really enhance a well done video.
For me, that places PTT into the realm of yet another tool to create an overall good viewing experience. The place some folks get in trouble is when they overdo it. There is a fine line between creative and cheesy. Here's to not crossing that line...

David