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Subject:sending projects around
Posted by: sogrady
Date:2/3/2010 6:41:00 PM

Hi. I would like to be able to invite my friends in other states to add tracks to my songs. Please tell me if it is possible to send a project over the internet, and if it is, how do I do it?

Subject:RE: sending projects around
Reply by: runman
Date:2/3/2010 7:57:15 PM

In AP7, click file, save as, in dialogue box click drop down menu, select acid zip. Project will be saved as an acid zip file which can be opened by someone else with AP7. Upload file to a fileshare host, voila.

Only problem, people with previous versions of acid will have trouble with acid zip files saved in later versions. But later versions will open all previous...blah bla bla...

Subject:RE: sending projects around
Reply by: sogrady
Date:2/3/2010 9:52:01 PM

Thank you, that was very easy, once you told me how to do it. I appreciate how quickly you got to my question. Now, a quick follow up.... Or two. Is there any trick to unzipping this file on the other end, or when he sends it back to me? Also, what about compatibility with other programs -- if my friends in New York are using pro tools am I SOL?

Subject:RE: sending projects around
Reply by: ATP
Date:2/4/2010 8:29:27 AM

if your buddies don't use ACID then it's going to be a little more difficult. you would then have to render each track in your project to a new (wav) file which your friends can then import into PT. of course that could mean sending quite a lot of data over the tubes.

alternatively, you could just mix down your song into 1 mp3 and give it to them, they can add their stuff and send their additions minus the mp3 back to you as seperate wav files, which you then import into your project.

Message last edited on2/4/2010 8:33:45 AM byATP.
Subject:RE: sending projects around
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:2/4/2010 10:58:45 AM

Adding to what ATP said, anyone with correct version of ACID can simply open up the ACD-ZIP file and work on it like any other ACID project; it acts just like any other ACD file with the exception that all the related media gets saved along with it.

Iacobus

Subject:RE: sending projects around
Reply by: sogrady
Date:2/4/2010 11:35:32 AM

Thank you, I really appreciate your help. When I get the file back, as a new zip file with my friend's tracks added, can I merge it with my original project file? I'm thinking, what if I add tracks of my own while I wait for my friend to get back to me -- Am I stuck with 2 separate projects at that point? Also, on the compatability question, I like the simplicity and elegance of ATP's second solution -- what about vice versa, if a friend with pro tools wants to send me a project to add tracks to, is that the way to go?
Thanks,
Scott

Subject:RE: sending projects around
Reply by: ATP
Date:2/4/2010 11:53:45 AM

"When I get the file back, as a new zip file with my friend's tracks added, can I merge it with my original project file?"

there is a difference between 'regular' zip and 'acid' zip. ACID only works with its own 'zip' format, so all people involved in the project have to use ACID for this method to work. regular zip files can't be imported directly in ACID so you'd have to unzip the contents first.

"I'm thinking, what if I add tracks of my own while I wait for my friend to get back to me -- Am I stuck with 2 separate projects at that point?"

yes. it could still work but it would be pretty chaotic, especially if your friend does the same. :)

"Also, on the compatability question, I like the simplicity and elegance of ATP's second solution -- what about vice versa, if a friend with pro tools wants to send me a project to add tracks to, is that the way to go?"

in my opinion it is. he gives you an mp3, you open it in ACID and add your sounds, then export the tracks with the new sounds as wav files, and then send those to your friend. i'm sure there are other ways to do this, but this method has worked nicely for me so far :)

Subject:RE: sending projects around
Reply by: sogrady
Date:2/4/2010 1:06:43 PM

"I'm thinking, what if I add tracks of my own while I wait for my friend to get back to me -- Am I stuck with 2 separate projects at that point?"

yes. it could still work but it would be pretty chaotic, especially if your friend does the same. :)

Do you mean that yes I'm stuck? This is no longer a rhetorical question -- I went ahead and added a banjo track while waiting for my friend to add his telecaster. Will it be easier to just rerecord the banjo part when I get his acid zip file back, or can I merge the two? Or can I find the take file of the banjo part (which I actually have not figured out how to do) and open it in the new acid zip file sent by my friend.
Chaos? Musicians? No, come on, you think?


Subject:RE: sending projects around
Reply by: Chienworks
Date:2/4/2010 4:50:53 PM

You recorded a live banjo? As in didn't use ACID loops to put it together? No problem. Right-mouse-button click in the track and choose properties. There should be a media tab and in there it will tell you the location of the .wav file. Merely add that to an new empty track in your friend's version of the file.

If you had used loops to create it you should still be able to open two instances of ACID at once, highlight that track and copy, then paste it into the other one.

Subject:RE: sending projects around
Reply by: sogrady
Date:2/5/2010 5:46:12 AM

Well, this is an acid project, so chopping it into thirty bits and moving it around is inevitable. Thanks for telling me how to find the .wav file, that helps a lot. And the copy and paste technique would have been my next question. Is that the best way to render a single track, to paste it into a new project?

Subject:RE: sending projects around
Reply by: runman
Date:2/7/2010 5:08:20 PM

"Is that the best way to render a single track, to paste it into a new project?"

You don't need a new project to render a single track. If you wish to render a single track which is one of many, simply solo that track and select file, render.

Subject:RE: sending projects around
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:2/8/2010 11:52:08 AM

If you and your friend are trying to work on the same project at the same time, there's really no other way than to copy and paste from one version of the project to another.

If you need to streamline and bounce down tracks, Ctrl +M is the way to go.

Just remember that any cuts or gains presently applied to the volume are factored in the render. For example, if there's a -10.5 dB cut applied to the track in the project, there will be a -10.5 dB cut applied to the render even if set at 0.0 dB. Also, a rendered track's volume will be set according to what the Mixer's Preview fader is set at.

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